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Thread: My right hand? For Fencing! My left? Well...

Spartaman
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:37 pm
#1

We only use 1 hand, right?


What happens to the other hand?


Perhaps a shield? Thoughts?

Denzo
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:38 pm
#2

I had the same idea, posted it, and it got shot down. Personnaly I think some sort of energy shield would be perfect considering the techonoligy available.



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Spartaman
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:40 pm
#3

Precicely.


Anyone up to speed on current trends is bound to know of the little energy shields those close relatives of mine, the gungans, use.


Raufo Dorlax of Gorath (And formerly Flurry), perhaps the only Mon Calamari Fencer in the game, would like to see some shiels for our fine,elegantly brutalclass.

Denzo
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:42 pm
#4






Spartaman wrote:

Precicely.


Anyone up to speed on current trends is bound to know of the little energy shields those close relatives of mine, the gungans, use.


Raufo Dorlax of Gorath (And formerly Flurry), perhaps the only Mon Calamari Fencer in the game, would like to see some shiels for our fine,elegantly brutalclass.







I actually am not a Star Wars fan in the sense that I know all races etc. I've seen a few movies. The shields just seemed like common sense to me.





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Centex
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:49 pm
#5

a shield sounds kinda cool, perhaps another sword sounds better Dual wielding sounds awesome, but a shield to help with defensive sounds good too, it's a toss up, but I would rather have 2 swords to swing and do more damage.




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Denzo
Mon Oct 27, 2003 7:52 pm
#6

I'de rather be able to block guns with a energy shield, whats two swords gonna do against a kiter.



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ShonRiyan
Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:55 pm
#7

Id like to have a mean sucker punch stun or a grab to keep em from running as they get the run through...
Awon
Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:08 pm
#8

I dont think shields would help the kiting issues. It may be able to block a few shots but a kiter can kite you until he feels like stopping.

GaryNgCodeFour
Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:32 pm
#9

Nah, no shield but give us more dodge and counter-attack mod, if we can use a shield on the left hand, make me think of paladins in Diablo 2.



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EasyMcRhinopants
Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:50 am
#10

Well okay, but I want the shield to use with my pistol too.


Oh wait, I'm too busy using my other hand for... never mind.

TaimaishuYun
Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:04 am
#11

if they gave us a second weapon then EVERYBODY would be fencers.. all the commandos would come to fencing etc etc... bad idea then all the other people will complain





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Strype67
Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:26 am
#12

I agree with the above post - your off hand is for balance - ever see a fencer use a shield ? No but you sure see him using his off hand for balance.


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Koukennin
Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:10 am
#13

In European fencing (foils and whatnot) you hold the sword in front of you and your balancing hand behind, usually.


In Midieval times with longswords and traditional "fantasy game"weapons where you use a shield, you use swings from the side and above using your shoulders more than piercing quick jabs.


Japanese kendo style seems to have been incorporated into Heavy Swordsman with the "Two Handed Curved Sword" (Even though our curved sword looks almost exactly the same excepting size).


Basically that leaves Chinese swordfighting for what the 'Fencer' class is based on, and incorporating some aspects of the former, though I know much less aboutChinese style than the former 3so I couldn't say for sure.


Our 'Dodge' animation (if you are lucky enough to have ever seen it) is just us bending slightly at the knees and teleporting back a bit before moving forward again, implying we jumped back, but our off-hand still doesn't really move to indicate balance of any kind.


I think our other hand needs to be doing something rather than just hanging out in the front. It looks like it is being used to ward off our opponent but that seems ridiculous tosacrifice your arm (in every fight).


Solutions for this hanging arm, can be to either strap a shield on it, make it move believably, or give usa second weapon. Another possibility is a skill that converts the next damage we take to the Action pool thus utilizing the blocking arm theory, but I don't think that is a good solution.


Obviously if they give us a second weapon we won't be using normal weapons, it may be possible to make "Parrying Daggers" which do low capped damage but also give us some more defense. Perhaps give all parrying daggers a significant negative modifier to One Hand speed, so we have options.


Anyway, I'd like to learn more about Chinese swordfighting if anyone knows if our class mimics it. (I believe it was mentioned that combat moves were motion-captured, and yes I know some moves are just for show and wouldn't really be useful but they can't all be that way.)

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