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Thread: MASTER FENCER WEAPON Here is a thought to give us a decent weap at master!
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ZionHalcyon
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:10 pm
#1
First off, I do not want this to turn into a "dual wield" thread. I am sure most of us feel positively about dual wield, and this is not something that I am suggesting take the place of it. Rather, this is something I see as a bonus to the fencer class, and would help out the fencer experience.
This is my helpful solution to fencer. I feel this would do4 things:
1) Decrease the amount of dabblers in our profession and encourage some of them to commit themselves.
2) Give Fencers a whole new weapon that could be what Master Fencers have been yearning for.
3) Help increase immersion and the fun factor of being a fencer.
4) Provide a goal for fencers to shoot for.
So, what is my idea?
A Master's Quest for the Ultimate Fencer Weapon
The idea breaks down like this:
The Story:
Once a fencer reaches masterhood, they would be able to take on a quest, in which they find an old fencing master (think japanese samurai/master), whowill give them quests in which as they complete it, the old master gives them rewards, and tells them that by completing his tasks, the master will give his worthy pupil the secret to "the ultimate blade". You complete the quests, and the final one is to defeat the old master's star pupil in combat with your fencing weapon.
The Reward:
The reward at the end is a fencing schematic from the old master. You take this schematic to an Armor Smith, and the smith can craft you "The Masters Blade". The main thing about the masters blade is that it will not take enhancements, but it can do up to 2 DOT attacks, depending on the ingredients you find. Fencers will have the ability to kill creatures, and *sample* something from them to go into the blade, i.e. a DOT attack. The stronger the creature, the stronger the DOT attack on the blade. Because of its power, the Blade will only be AP Light, but the damage would be in the 300's from minimum to maximum, and the speed would be in the 2's.
The Catch:
We can't have the ultimate blade without some balancing issues. Thus, here they are. The blade can only be made one at a time... if you have one in your inventory, even in your bank, then you will not be allowed to trade for another - you must destroy the old one to get a new one. Thus, no Dual Wield Master Blades. If a non-fencing master tries to equip the sword, not only will they be told they are not certified, but they will also not be able to equip it, AND they will be hit with a bleed, and any other DOT attacks the blade might have. Thus this means there will be some reverence for being able to handle a sword like that. If you want another schematic to give to another WS, you can always go back to the Master, but you must defeat his pupil each time. He will not give you another schematic if you have one anywhere in your inventory (including the bank).
So, that is my idea... a Master level weapon, that can only be used by Master Fencers, and can also hurt anyone who isn't a master that tries to use it (thus creating a lore and respect for the blade), AND it necessitates a quest by a master fencer to be able to receive a schematic of this blade.
Obviously this is new content, and would take some time to work out, but who would love to see this? What is everyone's thoughts?
And I especially would like to know what Fury Chaser thinks, since he is our rep right now.
Thoughts?
raldurrm
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:35 pm
#2
good idea... a little hard to implemt since very proff will want something like that and... onlyone typo!
HavvocRocks
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:36 pm
#3
I like the idea, that would give Fencers an alternate weapon to use besides the stun baton in pvp and would also give us something to do after we are all done with Fencer. I also like the light AP 
the vibro balde just dosnt cut it.
Havvoc Moonwraith <SYM>,Master Fencer, Kettemore
ZionHalcyon
Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:59 pm
#5
I understand every profession wanting something like that - but the deal is, most professions have bigger advantages than us anyway. I can understand doing it when it makes sense (Swordsman, Pikeman, maybe some bearclaws for TKA), but the ranged folks have all sorts of advantages as it is compared to melee, and a heck of a lot more powerups - this should be pointed out when people start crying.
WoodyX
Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:30 pm
#6
UMMMMMMMMMMM dont pistoler/cabiners/rilfemen/swordmen already get speical schmatics to make SUPER weapons? so why not give a fencer one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drag00n169
Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:25 pm
#7
Lol, when I read 'ultimate weapon'I kept saying to myself...'ultima weapon' from FF7.To get the ultima weapon, you had to trackdown Ultima and kill it(havent played ff7 in a WHILE, i think you had to defeat it 3 times).So, in the beginning, you do meager quests and such. Then as the finalquest to prove yourworthyness, you have to track down someone or something and loot the schematic from it. It has to be done in such a way that ONLY the Fencer who made it that far can attack it...otherwise you could just get a group of your buddies and take it on.
DevilPuppy
Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:28 pm
#8
Yeah.. Give one of the dominating PVP proffs an even better weapon... That will help balance things out...
And giving pistoleers a stun weapon was really stupid too.. PVP is just one big stun war.
And giving pistoleers a stun weapon was really stupid too.. PVP is just one big stun war.
Message Edited by DevilPuppy on 04-12-2004 04:30 PM
ZionHalcyon
Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:57 am
#9
Sorry, but in everything I have seen, Ranged > Fencer, especially rifleman. I have seen TKA give fencer a run for their money. I have seen Combat Medics wail on fencers.
Yes, a good fencer can beat an average anyone else. But once you balance out the skill level, a PURE fencer gets whacked more times than not.
So just because you are one of the average people an above average fencer wailed on is no reason to nerf them, or bring them into balance. A Krayt T21 will still outdamage a fencer, so why are you complaining again?
ruehs
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:30 pm
#10
Ranged > Fencer, especially rifleman
Three words for ya: Line Of Sight
don't stand out in the open and let them shoot you, that is just stupid, maybe you should change the way you pvp. or not pvp at all. I'm tired of you trying to change this profession from how it is, working, to something that it is not, uber damage king. Like I said in my post, if you want to do "sick damage" go to a different profession. we fight defensively, not offensively.
Macross Starchaser, Eclipse, Phoenix Reborn
ZionHalcyon
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:26 pm
#11
Ruehs, have enough class to keep the argument we are having contained to the original thread.
Seriously, you cry like someone ran over your dog, or something....
ruehs
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:50 pm
#12
so now you are one starring anyone that doesn't agree with you?
Macross Starchaser, Eclipse, Phoenix Reborn
ZionHalcyon
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:09 pm
#13
Hardly, I don't stoop to that level. Although looking at this post now, apparently you do.
Classless...
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