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Is it just me or is it hard being a male dancer?? Everyone is always coming into the hotel looking for a female dancer... Any other male dancers out here??

Heh, I was dancin' with a male dancer last night and he was great! Now if we could just get synchronized I think we could be really entertaining. I wish there were more male dancers. I think couples' dancing comes across as more credible than just solo lapdance style for tips. And, after everyone's seen the basic moves what is there for them to come back for? So /cheer male dancers. I enjoy watchin' them and dancing with them.

If I had a regular partner that I trusted I would gladly split tips with him. Most of my credits are made through missions anyway.

I am a male intending to take dancing as my main profession... right now unfortunately I am stuck to my day job as delivery-boy... ah how we suffer for our art!

I feel a little bit bashful about it, since it seems that people are more often looking for female dancerrs. I've had at least one person mistake me for a woman. When I practice at the shuttle port though, people are very nice and appreciative.It soothes my fragile male ego!

I've been planning on making a male dancer since I found out there were dancers in this game, hopefully he'll do well.

Two main issues face male dancers:

The game is mostly males who, for some reason, think they should seek out females. Partially because they're subconsciously too homophobic, & partially because they're too dumb to realize the ycannot mate or reproduce online. Which would be the only reason to seek a female.

Issue two is that some of (not all but too many) of female dancers, by which I mean actual females, not guys playing female characters, are doing it to suck up attention. Obviously this is a vastly sweeping generalization, but it's about people wanting t obe super tough or dominant playing combat types (very unlike their real lives) and just as true: females playing ALWAYS super adolescent-fantasy oversexualized sluttish types (oh exscuse me, classy & erotic..no I meant slutty, same dif). Equally adolescent & unlike their real lives.

Male dancers are competing with idiot hormones of the unevolved primate looking to mate, & the egos of some females who are in denial about that fact & think it's art or something. Dance awa y& remember, anyone who looks askance at you or thinks they deserve more tips because they put the jugometer to MAX, aren't worth the breath it takes to rip on them.

you know what ninja, you are such a hateful bigot and homophobe. I am a female that shares an account with my husband. I have a dancer character. I am a happily married woman with a son. I chose the dancer profession because i can't stand combat. Dancing in a large group is fun because you have no idea what we all talk about in group chat. We talk about everything and we rip on immature jerks with an iq of a 2 year old (wait strike that. my 2 year old son is more mature than you). I do not dance for attention at all. My outfit is very tasteful. I wear a bodice, long floor length skirt, and a bone crest. I do not strip or do private dances. Not in the least bit slutty. I think you are just going into the sleazy cantinas and making a generalization about all dancers from the few trashy ones out there. I can tell you are not a dancer at all, so why don't you do us all a favor, leave our forums and go bash whatever profession you have decided to take up.

Ninja, you do have one truth...Male dancers may have to compete with hormone raging males looking for female dancers.

The other is dead wrong. If you did not know, dancing is an art. It is called a performing art. I danced in RL for 15 years, in jazz and tap dancing.

Generalizing all of us as sluts is going to get you NOWHERE fast. Just b/c we wear the dancer costumes does not make us sluts. As for my style I don't like the long skirt look. I do have one formal dress that I do wear that was a gift from a very good friend. If I change from my formal to my exotic leotard am I automatically a **edit**?

I think Iconduct myself in a very respectiable manor no matter what outfit I am in. Due to bad past experiences I will no longer do any sort of "private dance" for anyone but my RL husband who plays if he wants it and my good friends.

I am like Jomina, I chose dancer because I don't like combat, I've already tried combat in SWG. I like the social aspect of the dancing and the cantina atmosphere. I didn't pick it b/c I was never an exotic dancer in RL or need attention, I get plenty of attention in RL. When my husband found out there was going to be a dancer profession he told me I should do it.

I sure hope you don't play on my server

Relica Tremayne

Dancer / Image Designer

Eclipse

Yeah, male dancer here.

I find it very hard to make tips. Most of the customers are male, who mostly don't want attention from me, and that's fine, I don't want really want to give them attention either. These people don't tip or if they do, its 50 here, 100 there, maybe 500 for a full night of work. This doesn't bother me, I wouldn't care if I never received another tip from these guys.

But the biggest kicker is that none of the girls that come in to watch tip either. I have girls come in half dead, sit at my feet, flirt, make requests,chat, and generally be entertainedfor 30 minutes, then get up and leave without tipping.

A hit and miss solution if you want to make credits... Find a cantina that is usually empty, I like anchorhead for this. Grab a comfy chair, and announce that you dance for tips only. I've been doing 1 minute of dance per 300 credits. (And yes, if they tip me 50 credits, I'll get up, flourish once, and sit back down). I can make thousands of credits per hour doing this. But the tips stop instantly as soon as another entertainer shows up.

On a good note, the number of comments about my sexual preference do seem to be slowing down.

Yajedi, you made me chuckle...Anyone in their right mind won't tipanyone 300c for one minute of dancing by being forced to, it would cost that much to get a shuttle ticket and go elsewhere . I hope there are not too many people that take up your plan, it would just make the rest of us look bad. Generally if you go to a city with a less busy cantina you will make more in tips. From my experience I made more in one night in my starting city of Kor Vella then I did anywhere else. Forcing people to tip you is just rediculous. Like my husband said to me when I used to complain about wanting some extra creds for a new outfit, ~go run missions~

Relica Tremayne

Dancer / Image Designer

Eclipse

Well, I'm going to disagree.

My friend and I were out hunting once, and we both died. We were both master dances, so into the cantina we went (just happened to be the same anchorhead cantina), to get ourselves healed up. We walk in, and there are no (zero) entertainers in there. We start dancing, and we both notice incredible healing xp. It seemed the rebels were having a bad day, and there were about 15 people in there with major wounds. All just waiting for an entertainer.

So we politely stayed, helped out the rebel cause, and danced until all the wounds were gone. How nice of us. We walk out, I received a 50 credit tip. She didn't make any.

I don't know about your server, but high-end services (master tailor, master image design) cost in the 10k-20k range for their service/product, which takes just several minutes of time.

300 creditsfor a minute of dancing is actually pretty close to what I can make doing destroy missions (I didn't just make that number up!)

I give the people a choice: Pay me what I can make on my own doing missions, or sit around and wait for someone else while I do some destroy missions for money. I am in no way forcing people to tip me. I'm just sitting on the couch. And you'd be surprised, when I explain this to the few people who ask, how reasonable they can be, and how many "Wow, I never thought of it that way" responses I get.

I'm a master already, so theargument that I get xp for it doesn't apply at all.

My tips have ramped up quite a bit lately. A few possible reasons why:

I usually work the same location and people recognize my name.

I've gotten new outfits to wear and had my hair done by a skilled image designer.

I've taken to partner-dancing with a gal who is also a regular at my location. She and I coordinate and bandflourish together, and try to do light effects at the same time. The overall effect is pretty impressive, people always takenotice.

The effects from Tech I really help... I'm pretty addicted to timing them with some of the flourishes from Lyrical and it gets me lots of attention (and credits).

There is money out there for guy dancers

I never argued that you need exp But I know that I would rather spend the 300c to get a shuttle to a different city before I was forced to tip someone so they will dance just because they no longer get exp for it. But then again I dance for fun mostly, and make Image Designing my money maker, but I don't depend on either, in your case you try to make dancing your money maker. Tips are tips because people appreciate your service, tips are no longer tips when someone has to pay them to get you to dance for them. Maybe if you want more tips you should find a different cantina.

BTW - Being a master tailor costs the people in components / ingredients etc. Being a master image designer you constantly bug people for hours on end so you can get exp for image designing - do you really bug people by dancing, do you use components or ingredents to dance?.. Didn't think so. I'm 2 skills from being a master dancer, and I would never tell someone, sorry I'm not gonna dance unless you pay me what I can make in a mission, just seems a bit .. well silly.

Relica Tremayne

Dancer / Image Designer

Eclipse

I had an interesting thing happen at a cantina the other night. I am female and play a female dancer.. I have no idea how to play a guy so I don't even bother. I walk into this cantina and the only other entertainer is a guy musician. He's playing, but not saying a word, not smiling at the customers.. I didn't even know if he was just AFK or quiet. So I start dancing and I'm smiling at everyone that comes in and asking about the hunts and what the other guy looks like.. joking around and being a goof ball falling in my dances. Most of the people tipped me and no matter what the size of the tip i say thanks and blow them a kiss or beam a smile to the girls. After about 20 minutes the male musician leaves in a huff saying that he should roll a female next time to he could make some tips. Guess he wasn't AFK after all.. who would have known.

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