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Thread: Publish 9 Patch Notes

EMC2
Wed May 26, 2004 8:09 pm
#40






KyleKnox wrote:
You call endless PvP more content? I have that now. Except now I am not stuck overt, unles of course the corvette stuck overt bug strikes me. And yes it is a nerf. I will have the same "robe", defensive protection as EVERY other lower level jedi (padawan robe), which is A COMPLETE JOKE. In my mind 190 is greater than "slight". Of course if they make it AP3, maybe that will make up for it. I won't hold my breath.






The Jedi Archives specifically state that:



Jedi Robes
Long awaited are the Jedi robes! Gone will be the days of Jedi running about in armor. The Jedi robe will provide a hidden toughness value that will protect the Jedi similar to armor but provide more of a Jedi feel. These robes will be issued to you as you advance through the quests and throughout the Force Ranking system and each have their own look based on rank. Should you lose rank your robe will be stripped from you and the appropriate level reissued.


FACTS:


So your robeWILL look different than a low level padawan. If you wanted it to have higher resists, how does that equate to the situation as it is now where you, me and every other Jedi (Initiate up to Guardian) is wearing the same composite armor?


You are a Guardian 4444 in this system, and you will be a Jedi Knight in the new system within a few hours of it going live and you populate your skill trees as YOU decide (nice that the devs didn't force you into a template in the transfer...thank them later please), and you can instantly start the Knight Quest and have the OPTION to enter the Enclaves and become a member of the early council.


Explain to me how exactly you are getting NERFED from this? I'm willing to be the rest of us who didn't get to your current level in this system are about to get some serious breaks applied to our rate of ascention. Whether you craft grinded your way to Guardian or did it in the mind numbing PvE grind, just be happy you are at the top of the heap in the new system while the rest of us have to adapt mid-stream.


Whether it is you at the top, me in the middle, or the folks still gunning to get their Jedi....this system will be better, I'm certain of it. Content, defenses, saber crafting, damage type, robes, better interaction with the population, GCW, etc is all being improved. Have some faith...and adapt....and thank the devs for giving you choices in the transfer.


JediJamie
Wed May 26, 2004 8:34 pm
#41






ArjunThakur wrote:



Publish 9: Secrets of the Force

These changes will affect players who have already unlocked their Force Sensitive (FS) slots. Players who have not unlocked their FS slot may continue to master professions for credit, but no new players will become Jedi until Publish 10, The Jedi Trials.





Well This S.U.C.K.S !


Nuff Said ...







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CavemanJack
Wed May 26, 2004 8:59 pm
#42






RAMBOW wrote:





2: What is the decay rate on the new pearls and crystals

Based on usage. Part of the engine. Im not going to give you formulas.


Durability should range from 700 to 1400 per crystal/pearl. Multiply that by how many are in the lightsaber.







Acouple things from this...


1. NEW SABER DAMAGE TYPE


2.Crystals will still drop from NPCs and Pearls from Krayts, hopfully there is another way for jedi only (we can only hope)


3. Crystals/Pearls will decay from conditions 700-1400 X the number of crystals/pearls but still, we have no way to repair them, so this actually seems like a step BACKWARDS







This worried me until I looked again at my notes on a saber's decay.. On a saber that I actually tracked the xp/condition ratio on, the max condition was 1000 >660>435 >413 > 272 > 217 > 173 > 138 > 131 > 104 > 83(retired saber here). That's 3626 total condition, adding up the max conditions after each repair. I started tracking this one when I upgraded it to 5th gen.


This new decay system looks like conditions are going to range from 2800 (4x700) to 5600 (4x1400) on 5th gen blades (or the new system equivilent if I understood it correctly). Or 3500 to 7000 if the color crystal has condition that is factored in. So,if I'm on the right track, we could come out even better on condition than now. Of course if you're really lucky and always get a minor blemish repair on a saber you won't have as much condition on the new ones.


I think it'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.




Kaece Solen
Master Instigator
4344 Apprentice
Intrepid
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The current system for hunting Jedi is nothing but sanctioned grief play.
SavantDude
Wed May 26, 2004 11:28 pm
#43

KYLE! calm down..

First, you get your FIRST robe at Padawan. EACH RANK after the Knight trials gets a NEW robe.

The statement (forgive me,it's late) for Knight Trials, I believe implied that if you are a 4/4/4/4 Guardian NOW, after the pub hits, you can "take the trials".. my guess is, there are a series of quests that will allow "the rest of us" to "take the trials" once we get there. 4/4/4/4 Guardians will be credited those quests, and able to step into the "post trial, PvP world" for the "top game" off the bat. Granted, I could be mistaken, but we just don't know yet.

You really do need a valium. I don't like SOE any more than you do, but sheesh! cut them a break. This is NOT -just- about SOE. They had the code for 3 years, then Lucas pushed them for a return on their investment. SOE (as I guess it) was making the best with what they had. Sure, they probably suckled on the money teet too long, but they have been at this for a bit more than just a few years (EQ is what, 5 years old now?).

Relax.. calm down! until we get to see how it works on TC-2, we have nothing concrete to **edit** about..



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Solifer
Thu May 27, 2004 1:35 am
#44

um guys calm down. BHs are whining allrdy as well

due to some pics there WILL be a new dmgtype called "lightsaber". So far noone found anything with resists vs this dmgtype. AT ST are vulnerable and krayts are as well, have a look:

[url]http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=76910&poll_id=0&category_id=20&warned=y[/url]
and
[url]http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=76938&poll_id=0&warned=y[/url]

That s the same with armor, perhaps BH / mandalorian armor get resists vs lightsaber, noone knows, but every current armor is vulnerable, ubese, composite, RIS ...

so stop crying around plz and wait for the tc2 as well as for the final update notes since there no fixes to Jedi mentioned now. They give us the chance to test the Jedi on TC2, so they won t put up patchnodes just to change them some days later. Cos everyone would cry about NERF again, if they take something down cos it was too strong.

C0N5UM3R
Thu May 27, 2004 1:38 am
#45

yay, good stuff.






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ospo
Thu May 27, 2004 4:44 am
#46

i am confused after the patch...

are krayt pearls goin to become extinct?

and will the existing ones become useless?

if so why are they still selling for millions?

would they not suffer the same fate as the

holos?


ospo
quailynn
Thu May 27, 2004 5:07 am
#47

Sounds pretty good, im looking forward to getting my robe......BUT



How are the "Color Crystals" Going to be obtained? Seems like we are going to have every Jedi running around on Patch Day with NO SABER! Do to the fact, that none will have the needed color crystal....I hope these are Craftable, or very easy to get.


AND...Hopefuly force crystal Drops will be much more frequent, or the economy on the servers will still be screwwwwed.


Syerra SiverSoul<CoE>


Sunrunner





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StarDryfter
Thu May 27, 2004 5:21 am
#48






Harran wrote:

OK this sucks for all of us that was pushing towards jedi. No way i can get 11 more professions doen in 2-3 weeks!







Yeah, no chit..


I am working on 28, Musician, and 29, merchant. Only had BE, Ranger and BH left. Wouking diligently I MIGHT of gotten them all done by Pub 10.


Now I only have 2 weeks at most probably, and I cannot make it. No way no how.


This is the type of utter BS I hate frmo SOE. What would it HURT them to just tell all the grinders that GRINDING FOR UNLOCK will be useless if you cannot unlock by Publish 9? What harm in that LITTLE piece of infomation?


I have never played as a jedi, but still see the revamp as very exciting as it seems to add substantial content for Jedi.


But the whole "migration" just has me completely pissed. It would not hurt them to give us grinders just a little damn information so we can plan for the next few months....or in this case now.....WEEKS.


Oh well. Lets hope that 29 professions translates into I sneeze and get jedi after Pub 10.....Because It is completely unfair if I have ground out the last 3 professions in 2 weeks, including the worst for my playing style, Dance, and them only put me half way through a several month quest system.....Again, IF that is what it is....They do owe us some answers.


Sorry friends and neighbors, Just disappointed....please bear with my moodiness on this..


Rayn




Raynwalker - Glowing Tickle Stick User (I wish it was THAT strong)

Retired due to SOE's bulldroppings

Tritolone
Thu May 27, 2004 6:44 am
#49

I think this is very awful,I'm actually on 24 prof and spent more then 8 milions to grind,I think that if this will be true I'll leave the game.


Tritolone Curvanord

Beta Tester on Bria

Grinder on 24 prof on Bloodfin



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StarDryfter
Thu May 27, 2004 7:40 am
#50






Tritolone wrote:

I think this is very awful,I'm actually on 24 prof and spent more then 8 milions to grind,I think that if this will be true I'll leave the game.


Tritolone Curvanord

Beta Tester on Bria

Grinder on 24 prof on Bloodfin






There is no room for doubt my friend..... It is the the release notes. It will not drive me out right now. When I see how my character transforms on the frist login after publish 10, that will be DDay for me.



Raynwalker - Glowing Tickle Stick User (I wish it was THAT strong)

Retired due to SOE's bulldroppings

LordRaeVen316
Thu May 27, 2004 7:53 am
#51

what the hell is the deal with nobody will unlock after publish 9 when they've beens aying all along you ahve till publish 10 to unlock on the old system? W T F !!!



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Darkatrina
Thu May 27, 2004 7:53 am
#52

Yippeeee no more grinding and thank god theyve announced it before i blew my last 7 million on grindingall the crafting profs and screwed my MD/Rifleman template. I for one am pleased about the timing.



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