Entertainer Archive
Thread: I Had Thought AFKing Had Gotten As Low As It Could Get Until.....
JenTara wrote:
Drygo wrote:
Second, even though the bots annoy the carp out of me, I think there's something to be said for politely asking a bot to leave. Many are nice people who may not understand the "unwritten rules" of a particular server or cantina. The ones that are unreasonable after the politeness...well, feel free to go on the attack after that's been established.
Um... we can have all the "unwritten rules" we want, they mean nothing unless SOE has rules... I've never met a bot that would leave if I asked them nicely.
All's I'm sayin' is, some people *are* nice and after they realize the situation they leave. It has happened before. In fact, for whatever reason, maybe it's the server, but we've had multiple bots come and go very quickly in Theed. It's sorta like how most of the places on most servers are buffbot trained. On Kettemoor, the players there are "trained" that Theed is the place to go to talk to and get a buff from a live entertainer. So, most of the combat players who come to Theed won't use buffbots. Maybe that's the reason, the bots aren't getting any money. LOL. Maybe it's a combination of the two reasons. But, it's been a mostly successful endeavor on Kettemoor.
Message Edited by LeBob on 03-23-2005 05:31 PM
shadowdefender wrote:
I don't want to sit at my computer all day and night and do mind buffs.... but there are other people to buff when I am not available.... I read recently some fun things to do as a guild - one was going on a hunt with no buffs and no armour higher than ubese. GASP - go out into the big world without my buffs and UBER weapon and kill everything in sight... Actually those were my fondest days when I couldn't afford much more than pieced together bone armour that I bought in Coronet Bazaar a laser carbine and a few good friends that sat around laughing till we cried as the dang meatlumps almost sent us to the cleaners for the upteenth time.
If buffers aren't around - go unbuffed - it's a new experience if nothing else
/agree
Aye, every Monday at 7pm PST, mu guild gathers up for "Bootcamp".
We meet on top of our PA Hall on Lok, in our special trainee jumpsuits and a cdef or baby melee weapon. No buffs, no food.
All I can say is - if we (a group of around 5) can take out entire base worth of pvp spawns, not including the Nyms/Corsair and atm there are Sith Hunters up there (ouch, they a bit tougher:smileyvery-happy
ect that surround it, without buffs - then what is the excuse of buff-aholics? Sure, one or two of us might get wiped - but its great fun, because everyone is vulnerable, and we all have to pay attention to more than justour combat que. Just like the good ol' days - its about looking out for each other and having a blast, not turning on some kind of "god mode" and spamming one particular attack.
And of course, when we trudge back to New Suntir to be dismissed after a long day of "maggot" training- we all head up to the cantina, for some dancing and music - good times, good times ![]()
ShortFatWhiteWookie wrote:Duping is wrong as that is making something for nothing, basically reprograming the game to give you something you did'nt put the time in to earn, but Afking is wrong, your charater is still logged in, using time even though your not at the computer you are doing nothing to adjust the game to your favor, the macro system was set up by experiance programmer who know it full capabilitys so when people use it is that wrong? is being away from your computer wrong? if so then it would be next to impossible for the past time gamer to get there char up to master dance or musician, as an hour every day is not much time and very little xp in those classes.Should they be the ones to suffer?If you have alot of time and love to sit and just chat in cantians thats great more power to you, but not everyone has that kind of time, I know I don't, what with work, kid and life I'm glad I stick with combat.I think that Afking is ok there is an AFK sign that was put in and even a monitar for inactive time to put it up there, was this miss programming or did SOE know that people would afk for long periods of time, I think they did and do know.So let not punish the part time gamer!The rule in other MMO's are in Other MMO's no SWG and that where they should stay, SWG is not like other games and need to be treated as such.Unattened game play is not agaist the rules and its a rule that does'nt need changing, if people don't like AFKers done group with them and don't talk to them, its your option but to sceam for a rule change is just wrong.
If a ranger found a way to AFK harvest meat in order to sell it at a drastically reduced price, would that be wrong? His character would still be spending time in the game, and he'd still be paying his $14.99 a month. But the other rangers wouldn't be able to compete. They'd get no income from hunting because no right-minded artisan would pay more for a raw resource than they had to - that would cut into their profit margin. The only way that the economic damage of that player could be mitigated would be if he ran out of meat - there was too much demand for the cheap product. This would encourage crafters to seek other sources of meat, bringing some business back to the other rangers. Now imagine if that same ranger could harvest inexhaustible amounts of meat... The other rangers would never get back that business. This is what an AFK bot is like to entertainers. They can give away an unlimited supply of our product, nearly twenty-four-seven, and they only have to hit a single key, once per day.
That doesn't seem wrong to you?
And in response to your comment, that's one of the worst reasons for AFKing I have ever heard. If you don't have time to play more than an hour a day, only play an hour a day. A true entertainer, one who deeply enjoys the profession and not just its buffs, would have fun in that hour, and not just want a higher song for next time. They'd want to come back to talk to their friends, greet their patrons, and have a positive impact on the community. Being an entertainer all alone is one of the most boring things in the game. It's tantamount to being a merchant on a single player server. If that's a true entertainer wanting nothing more than new song, it's because they're alone in a sea of AFK bots who have no way to socialize with them in any meaningful way. AFK play only plagues others with boring, meaningless, harmful AFK play.
If you're playing an entertainer for the right reasons, you should value your integrity, your contribution to the community, and your positive influence on your friends and supporters - you should value the joy you bring to yourself and those around you. You should not value the fake money over all else. When you do, you ruin it for those that don't. And I am willing to bet that there are more of us who value game money less than real emotional gratification (that doesn't mean that out only source of emotional gratification is SWG, before you get any ideas.) I am also willing to bet that the greater number of us, paying the greater number of $14.99's per month, are more valued by SOE. If they want to keep that real-life cash, they will listen to us, and not the empty, soulless husks that are the buff-bots and their creators.
ShortFatWhiteWookie wrote:
Duping is wrong as that is making something for nothing, basically reprograming the game to give you something you did'nt put the time in to earn, but Afking is wrong, your charater is still logged in, using time even though your not at the computer you are doing nothing to adjust the game to your favor, the macro system was set up by experiance programmer who know it full capabilitys so when people use it is that wrong? is being away from your computer wrong? if so then it would be next to impossible for the past time gamer to get there char up to master dance or musician, as an hour every day is not much time and very little xp in those classes.
Should they be the ones to suffer?
If you have alot of time and love to sit and just chat in cantians thats great more power to you, but not everyone has that kind of time, I know I don't, what with work, kid and life I'm glad I stick with combat.
I think that Afking is ok there is an AFK sign that was put in and even a monitar for inactive time to put it up there, was this miss programming or did SOE know that people would afk for long periods of time, I think they did and do know.
So let not punish the part time gamer!
The rule in other MMO's are in Other MMO's no SWG and that where they should stay, SWG is not like other games and need to be treated as such.
Unattened game play is not agaist the rules and its a rule that does'nt need changing, if people don't like AFKers done group with them and don't talk to them, its your option but to sceam for a rule change is just wrong.
if you can only attend to your gaming habits for an hour a day, maybe you should play something that doesn't require the siginificant time investment that an MMO does. halo 2 on xbox live is really nice for that.
by the way,words are like tools, learn how to use them properly
ShortFatWhiteWookie wrote:Sorry Tangle I did'nt know this game was restricted to people who have no lives to live out side there computers, I shall leave now and go and play Halo2 and listen to a bunch of morons swearing down there mics.Please think before you post that was just arrogant in the extream.
So because you are limited in your time online you should be able to reach master at the same point in time that someone else can who is on line more? Thats like saying that people who drive 50 miles per hour should be able to reach their destination at the same time people driving 60 do. If you aren't playing the game then your character's activities are stealing resources that are there for ME and others actively playing the game. So its ok for your toon to consume resources and degrade my play experience when you aren't online just so you can drive slower and arrive at the same time? I don't think so.