Entertainer Archive
Thread: PLS let me heal BF in camps
If they were to allow BF healing in camps I would hope it would only be something that would come with the Elite Master title.
Battle Fatigue is Shell Shock someone who has been in combat will not be able to completly relax in the field.
A Master Dancer/Musician however has not only the healing skill but the Technique and Knowledge to draw attention to themselves and away from everything else in effect they should be almost hypnotic in there ability to Captivate and Messmerize their audiences and get their minds off the fights and onto the entertainment.
If they were to allow this however I would want to make sure that camps had at least a 50% reduction in speed of BF healing over cantinas/hotels so as to make the healing in camps an alternative not the perfered method. And the masters would not be able to heal their own battle fatigue since they are not taking their own minds off their surroundings. A performers ability to heal would need to be dependant on their own fatigue as well a severly fatigued performer would be unable to help others.
/agree
if this ever comes about it needs to reserved for Master Musician/Dancer only.
excellent idea about reduced heal rates and not healing yourself !
One more thing, let BF be healed in camps and the next thing groups will want is a clone module for their droids. Now they never have to go back to a city. Well I suppose they would need to go back to sell all those bones/hides they accumulate. But even this can be dealt with. Change the Call Shuttle faction bennie. Have the shuttle have a bazaar terminal. That way they can call a shuttle, dump their stuff and not get on shuttle. Woo Hoo
LOL this made me laugh, apples and oranges hon.
Face it the mind pool and BF is the largest timesink for combat professions (not my words I hear this from the combatplayers I meet in remote area's). And ppl will start complaining about it when they leave the "Nerf the CH, BH etc" bandwagon.
There areto fewdedicated entertainers in the game at this point. And the entertainers that are online all pack together in the larger Cities onhighly populated planets.
Usually Im the only entertainer in the Taverns on Dantooine for instance.
Btw the entertainers that complain about not gettin enough tips. Go to a remote planet. I get 1k~2k tips from most ppl cause Im the only entertainer there and its cheaper and fasterfor them to give me a big tip than taking starships to the populated planets.
But still let me heal BF in camps even at a reduced rate I dont care. Current situation is just not acceptable imo.
I also think we should come up with a solution before powergamer combat profession X starts complaining and giving there "vision".And they are complaining!! It still amazes me that these forums arent flooded yet with posts about this issue.
If SOE don't change the concept of entertainers, in like 2 months no entertainer will be left.
Period.
I made master musician 2 days ago, and without the goal and the exp grind there is absolutely NO reason to log into this game and hanging around in cantina.
Socialising? Get a grip. If I want socialising, I go out in a bar in RL. Or I start IRC or AOL chat. Don't need a chat environment that requires 1 GB RAM to run smoothly.
One master musician friend already dropped his music skills to get points for battle skills.
I for myself don't feel to play anymore as musician (despite my sig) 
This class needs some CHANGE to stay alive.
I've always been against the idea of camps healing BF....but maybe it would be cool.
Require Musician OR Dancer Fatigue Healing IV would be the way to do it, like suggested...but I'll provide one more stipulation: There should be a minimum that you can heal to. For example, you can't heal anyone who has less than 100 BF, and when you heal someone who has more than 100 BF you can't take them below 100.
Wait.
On second thought, let's say vice versa.... Because I think people with HUGE fatigue should be forced to go to a city at least. So you can heal fatigue if it's less than 200, but if someone has more than 200 BF, it can only be healed in a structure that currently allows BF healing.
Summary:
Music/dance Fatigue Healing IV required, and you cannot heal BF in camp if you have more than a certain number (200 was hypothetical for an example, but it seems an appropriate amount.).....also, perhaps only allow it in certain camps...like not the newbie camps for sure, maybe only improved camps and up.
Sweeamke wrote:
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Dont expect to see an entertainer in the taverns on Dantooine for instance (on eclipse that is). It would only be fair to the rest of the players if they can get BF restored at campsin remote area's when a skilled entertainer is grouped with them without having to take a few starships to go to a Cantina with a decent band.
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It sounds perhaps a bit revolutionary, but have you all considered th epossibility to hire a Masterdancerod mastermusicans for locations like Dantooine, Endor, Dathomir?
Lets say if a goup pays 15000cr for an entertainer to heal the group and follow the group or stays alternatively for an arranged time in the local Cantina, allwould win I think.
The Dancer /Musican has an income and goal to play, the group saves money for the tickets and saves much downtime in traveling and finding a good entertainer, which often then leads to an end of the huntinggroup.
Or do you think such an idea sounds greedy? It was just a thought who came in my mind reading this post.
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Aniella (Gorath) Dancer
"If SOE don't change the concept of entertainers, in like 2 months no entertainer will be left.
Period."
You say that like it is a fact. Sorry it's not. I will still be dancing. I am not yet a master (though very close) and I don't care how long it takes me or if I get there that I won't have anythig else to "grind" to. I love the social aspect of the game. I love that my friends come and visit me after a long day in the field.
And also for the person who said they didn't know any pure enterainers *raises hand* hi nice to meet you my name is Ka'seyna. If you play on starsider look me up I'll buy you an outfit or two.
Ka's, sure there will be people like you using SWG as a huge colorfull chat room in the Star Wars universe. But I doubt it's the majority of players.
I consider myself as very dedicated online gamer - 280 full days played in EQ - and I also like the aspect of socializing. But when it comes down tochat as only option for certain classes, it's not a game anymore.
Consider this: I am down to 94 skillpoints, and I bet lotsa other entertainers burned as much points. So when you going to learn some more "entertaining" professions than entertainer , you WILL have to drop the musician/dancer skill to get really good in it.
So we need to have a reason to be entertainers, something beside chatting and standing around doing flourishes from time to time.
That would be more functionality in battles and outside cantina, for example.
Marrnos wrote:
Ka's, sure there will be people like you using SWG as a huge colorfull chat room in the Star Wars universe. But I doubt it's the majority of players.
I consider myself as very dedicated online gamer - 280 full days played in EQ - and I also like the aspect of socializing. But when it comes down tochat as only option for certain classes, it's not a game anymore.
Consider this: I am down to 94 skillpoints, and I bet lotsa other entertainers burned as much points. So when you going to learn some more "entertaining" professions than entertainer , you WILL have to drop the musician/dancer skill to get really good in it.
So we need to have a reason to be entertainers, something beside chatting and standing around doing flourishes from time to time.
That would be more functionality in battles and outside cantina, for example.
Your first problem is comparing SWG to EQ they are very differnt games. EQ drew in and molded players to a set script if you wished to advance in the game you had to do camping, camping, raiding, raiding, camping, camping, raiding, raiding. SWG allows the player to set their own script. You may find the entertainer profession as not exciting or not something you wish to do, others however will see the entertainer roll as exactly what they want from the game. Rather than downgrade their enjoyment wish them well and recognize that because of the variety of players and playstyles in SWG there will be an entertainer in the cantina able to heal you once you have dropped all entertainer skills for something you find more interesting.
For the record I like a mixture of both. EQ (200+ days played) always disatisfied my need to relax and just enjoy being with my friends and my guild. In EQ we never did anything as a guild that wasn't designed to make us advance or become more powerful however the most enjoyable times in game for me were not those hours spent raiding or camping but the times I spent sitting around just goofing off.
I'm sorry Marrnos but again you are trying to state your opinion as fact. You said
"Consider this: I am down to 94 skillpoints, and I bet lotsa other entertainers burned as much points. So when you going to learn some more "entertaining" professions than entertainer, you WILL have to drop the musician/dancer skill to get really good in it."
When I said I was a pure entertainer I meant that I don't do anything else for money. I don't find but I'll run out with my friends and shoot my gun and things with them every now and then. I to am down to about 80something skill points. But when it comes time to give some up, they will be from survey, or from marksman, or brawler. I will not give up my Master dancer once I achive it. I will listen to you much more if you would say something along the lines of "in my opinon" or "I believe" or "I would". That way it doesn't sound like you are trying to tell others what they will do. Which is why I had to respond to this in the first place. I will politely disagree with your opinon, I will get upset when you try and state it as fact.
You telling me I "WILL" give up my points is just wrong. Sorry. Oh yeah and though I don't have as much as you EQ played 80+ days (not counting trader time)