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Thread: Self Buffing could help the Night Owls

Drygo
Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:37 pm
#14






PistolDance wrote:

I have always been in favor of entertainers being able to buff themselves. As it is the entertainers are the only profession that cannot use their most valuable ability on themselves. Correct me if im wrong on the "only".


Allowing them to buff themselves would help a lot with entertainer/combat chars that are involved in the GCW and PvP. More people would choose entertainer if this ability was available in my opinion.








You're mostly right. The only exception is combat medics who can heal others mind (the white bar) but not their own. I hope I don't sound like a hypocrite when I say this, but I completely understand the reasoning behind that decision. After all if you can heal your own white portion of the blue bar by using the white portion of the blue bar, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.



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JamKiGrahf
Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:58 am
#15






JamKiGrahf wrote:

(thereby eliminating the very cool entertainer community).




That didn't make any sense...


I think I meant so people would still have to go to entertainers for good buffs so they would NOT be eliminated from gameplay!


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PistolDance
Sat Aug 07, 2004 11:45 am
#16






Drygo wrote:





PistolDance wrote:

I have always been in favor of entertainers being able to buff themselves. As it is the entertainers are the only profession that cannot use their most valuable ability on themselves. Correct me if im wrong on the "only".


Allowing them to buff themselves would help a lot with entertainer/combat chars that are involved in the GCW and PvP. More people would choose entertainer if this ability was available in my opinion.








You're mostly right. The only exception is combat medics who can heal others mind (the white bar) but not their own. I hope I don't sound like a hypocrite when I say this, but I completely understand the reasoning behind that decision. After all if you can heal your own white portion of the blue bar by using the white portion of the blue bar, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.




Ya, I was going to put in the CM thing but figured even if they did have it, it would cancel out


So having it isnt really a bonus unless they get more mind then it it takes to give it (if that makes sense). I wouldnt really conisder that an advantage, but Ive never played a CM before





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Ygo
Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:19 am
#17

I am a Master Dancer / TKA (not master, but working on it) and I would love to be able to self buff. So many times have I been out hunting with me guild, after giving them all buffs, only to be the first to die as my mind has gone.



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Amida_Enterprises
Fri Aug 13, 2004 4:56 am
#18

same as Ygo basically hehe.. though I am TKM..



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SakeO
Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:38 pm
#19

My major point was that self buffing would make dancer or musician a bit more attractive and possibly alleviate the drought of late night entertainers many predict if buffbots are removed.


The hard-core combatant won't spend 63 points on it but a few looking for more than just fighting might and presumably they could afford the tapes to get that buff up to 100%.


The change would not make entertainers broken (as they have so many skills devoted in non-combat pursuits), promote more well-rounded characters (slightly decreasing the ability rift between streamlined and non-streamlined templates) and provide off-hour players a few more outlets for their entertainer needs.


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Bhelzebub
Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:50 pm
#20

Im all for selfbuffing. It's very annoying that i can buff others but cant buff myself. Im not only a master dancer, i have a decent combat profession on the side. and YEAH, im forced to use buffbots when im on remote planets!


Dabbling into Dancer/Musician:


Well why not? If someone wants to, let them. It's kind of selfish to use the argument that we'll lose customers. If i could get a halfdecent buff free vs a master buff for xxk credits, i'd take the master buff. The lousy dabbler selfbuff would come in handy when i cant find a buffer on a remote planet..(which happen really really really often)


I would go as far and say let both musicians and dancer buff both stats..but that would get me flamed to death i guess.


Self buff and fix /Register and you have done LOTS to the dancer/musician professions.




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Tiaga
Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:37 am
#21



PhoenixStar wrote:


PistolDance wrote:


Drygo wrote:
I kind of have a feeling most combat players wouldn't invest that amount of skillpoints just for a 75% buff.


You are correct



You've forgotten about all the template mixing that's been going on I guess. All they'd need to do is go up the technique line and bam, instant buffs at their disposal 4 0 0 0(you could even do it with less if you wanted it badly enough). People have already done it with doctor as well as taking multiple lines for defense, so it's not far fetched or anything.




It may not be far fetched, but would it be a bad thing? After all, that is the whole intent of the profession based advancement of SWG.

If buffs are that big a deal to them, and they can't find them, then they will pick it up. This will be an expensive trade-off. Dancer or musician 4000 is 14 skill points short of novice doctor, but worse than a single line of most combat elites, even assuming it was picking up the style of combat they didn't do (IE marksman taking brawler). Considering they will be out fighting they won't be stealing much business from us, as they can only do it ATK.

And since they have to grind it out ATK and can't do so while on the field (Unlike medic/doctor), they will probably end up meeting an entertainer in the process anyway, and decide it's not worth the effort to continue now that they know how to find an entertainer.



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