Entertainer Archive
Thread: Fun with genders!
Crossbreed,
Iplay in a low populated planet and get tipped well enough to pay for 14k trainingfrom the regulars without having to play a female. 
My correction then:
Iplay in a low populated planet and get tipped well enough to pay for 14k trainingfrom the regulars without playing a female.
Etalesi wrote:
Iplay in a low populated planet and get tipped well enough to pay for 14k trainingfrom the regulars without playing a female.
Congrats Etalesi, yours is bigger than mine! Feel better now?
I understand that it is possible to make a lot of money from tips regardless of what you look like. I have found it easier to do whenI look sexually appealing to the majority of the playerbase. Sounds like you are making a lot despite being male. Grats!
In EQ I was a always a Female, truly because I couldn't stand the way the males looked. I even got married to another girl and a few years later we both found out we were males on the other side of the computer screen. We're still good friends and still have our fun online sometimes.
But SWG was different for me. I liked the way the males looked,and actually chose a male for this game. I've had lots of fun with it, but I do miss having another character on the same server so I can try something else and see all of my friends still. I guess that's the one thing I want a Force Sensative Character for, so I can have another character 
. And I'm pretty sure I'd play a female . They're just so much fun sometimes.
I've had many instances that go pretty far too, into the realm of Role Playing, and I kept it hidden what I was on the other side. Luckily I've never had the occasion of someone getting hurt, but I know now I'll be a little more careful out there.
Bulbous2 wrote:
I think the disproportionate number of Humans in the game shows the lack of role-playing skills.
I've been roleplaying a good, long time, both CRPG and P&P. It just so happens that my main character is a Human. Why? Because concept is king, and the concept I'm developing said "Human" to me. I'd love to play a Mon Cal, and I have one as a secondary.I just don't have awell-defined concept for him, so he sits on the back burner.
Mmmm.Sauteed feesh ees gooood. 
Crap, the very definition of "Role-Playing" is "pretending to be something you are not". I think you seriously need to re-think your post.
--- Boulbus
Context, my dear friend. I thought, maybe I didn't, I made it clear I was referring to people who pretend to be scantily clad women and get off on it.
Roleplaying and oogling your avatar are two very different things.
Yes, I roleplay. I play a rather large stomached Mon Calamari Droid Engineer. While I have worked on building a few robots in my time, I am not any of these aside from the fact that we are both male.
I was not knocking people for pretending to be something they are not. I was referring to the malicious debasing that comes with a poster previous to my last, who described a rather sad affair with a woman pretending to be a homosexual male outside of the game to toy with him. This is what I was knocking.
I understand people want to escape from who they are, if some guy wants to play a female and roleplay her well, more power to him. If a girl does the same with a guy avatar, more power to her.
Last night I was sitting in the cantina when I saw a character, female avatar, human run in and start actually "Roleplaying" they they were doing descriptive things to another one of the female entertainers. We all reported her of course, but this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
Roleplaying is one thing. The things I describe above are outside of the realm of roleplaying.
I hope I made my point clear and that it makes a bit more sense. I did not mean to come off as a complete hypocrit.
Thanks for reading
Iphis
I just started playing this game a few nights ago. I selected a female entertainer. Why? Hrm... well, lots of little, totally silly, reasons. For example, I play Neverwinter Nights a lot with 2 friends (we are all male in RL). For no particularly good reason other than without variety I get bored, each time I make up a new PC in that game (we play them for months at a time, but not forever), I switch (1) gender, (2) race, and (3) class. In our first group I was a male dwarf paladin. In the second I was a female half-elf rogue. In the third I was a male elf druid. In the fourth I was a female human fighter. Now I am a male halfling wizard in that game... So when I fired up SWG on my PC, my brain just clicked into "next gender is female" gear and I started with a female. I also have a slow net connection (56K) and was highly concerned with the combat-oriented classes, or even classes like Scouts required to go into the wilderness (on MMORPGs lag = death in many cases, when you die before you ever saw something coming due to frame rate hits, etc). So I figured the safest class was entertainer... and there we go, female entertainer.
I have played many RPGs... pen and paper with friends (all male except one guy's kid sister who played with us one summer -- she incidentally played a male PC while several of the guys played females, heheh)... In a small group on a dedicated server in NWN... on MUSHes (a kind of non-combat MUD). I have played males and females with approximately equal frequency. I pick things like gender, race, class, partly based on whimsy, partly based on what I think will work in the game/server/etc, partly based on what kind of mood I am in the day I make up the character. I have not ever had anyone have problems with which character class, gender, race, etc, I picked to play in the game, nor have I ever had anyone directly confuse me with my character (thank goodness).
It is important to remember that this is a roleplaying game. As such, nothing that my character does is "real." My character is a dancer. I suck at dancing. Does the fact that she knows how to moonwalk mean I can do it? Does the fact that I can't do it, mean she shouldn't be able to? Of course not... so why should gender be any different?
I don't go around offering my RL gender to people. In my opinion, in the middle of a roleplay session, what gender I am in real life, just like what race, religion, dancing ability, musical talent, or anything else about me, is none of their business. If they are not mature enough (in an RPG sense) to realize that I am not my character, I just play her, then that is sad... but it is, as far as I am concerned, their problem.
In MUSHes, this is called IC/OOC Separation (in-character vs. out-of-character). Some people have IC/OOC separation issues, in that they can't separate them. They think that, when I play Superman on a superhero game, I must really be a 6'4", black-haired, blue-eyed, muscular guy who looks like Christopher Reeve. For some of them, this is just a lack of understanding of what an RPG really is; for other people -- trust me, in 5 years running a MUSH, I have seen this happen -- need some serious clinical help.
It is important, at all times, to realize that this is a roleplaying game. When your character dies, you don't actually die. When your character takes damage, you don't start bleeding in real life. It should be no different with things like winking, flirting, smiling, waving, or any of the other things your character does.
Now, as to someone taking the fiction out of the game and into real life (e.g. the female in RL who pretended to be a gay male): those are the people who need help from a professional.
C
Iphis wrote:
Context, my dear friend. I thought, maybe I didn't, I made it clear I was referring to people who pretend to be scantily clad women and get off on it. Roleplaying and oogling your avatar are two very different things.
Well, I guess the phrase "get off on it" wasn't a very good choice. Do I "get off" on this game? Well, I enjoy it! Do I get a "cheap thrill"? Well, $15 bucks a month isn't cheap. Do I get any kind of sexual or emotional pleasure from pretending to be a female while interacting with males? Absolutely not. Plus, I'm not playing a human (with the breasts maxxed out) anyway.
" guess that's the one thing I want a Force Sensative Character for, so I can have another character . And I'm pretty sure I'd play a female . They're just so much fun sometimes."
Wouldn't that be great; some n00b comes in hitting on your character and you pull out your lightsaber...I think that would be hilarious...