Entertainer Archive

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ChaoKuang wrote:

Get the HELL out of my cantina if you aren't live, thanks. You ruin it because you don't contribute a damn thing except for another mindless NPC. I worked, and worked hard, for my titles. All you do is defile those titles and bring on more disrespect than us true entertainers already have.

If you're not going to be live, if you're not going to bother being in the cantina, if you're not going to bother to ENTERTAIN, you have no business being here at all.

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NJ62 wrote:

Hecklers! I hate hecklers!

My friend and I went into a cantina, and there was one live dancer there. We started up ceremonial on the mandeviol and the chickenhorn - which sounds damn good. It was Bestine, so it had that annoying background music (ugh). When the audience showed up, I told them to hit control-o and turn down the backgroundmusic, so we wouldn't sound like a cacaphony. Then a guy showed up - let's just call him Smacktard. Smacktard insisted that we sounded like... feces. I informed him to turn his background music down. He kept insisting that we sounded bad, and started calling my female rodian friend all sorts of lousy names. We got a third musician, and we switched to ballad, bandfill+chickenhorn+mando. Smacktard kept complaining and yelling, using every foul word he knew. Eventually I added him to ignore. At this point the once-empty cantina had about 10 patrons in it cheering.

We then switched the SW1 on the mando and bandfill, and the crowd went wild! I could tell that Smacktard was still protesting mightily becuase I would hear others say "you shut up, that sounds frickin awesome!"

Ugh, why must people like that exist?

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hehe... ok your right. Officially AFK was not allowed, however.. i dont remember anyone ever being banned or even threatened... then again on Siege if you werent at the keyboard someone was gonna kill you eventually anyway.

So ill concede that officially it wasnt allowed. It just happened alot and didnt seem to have nearly the number of complainers against it that SWG does.

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nvoigt wrote:

And to all who are doing the whining, you have not tried the Dancer or Musician profession, have you?? No, because if you did you would probably have carpal tunnel from typing /flourish 1, 2, 3, etc. etc. etc. for hours on end!!! So until SOE says otherwise, macros are not exploits and I for one will continue to use them.

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Those who are whining have already mastered these professions. And I haven't met any with this syndrom because we know how to use macros. Or maybe hotkeys even. The problem is not macros, but unattended gameplay.

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woogums wrote:

I find it interesting that you consider the addition of the ability to play while AFK an "enhancement" or an "improvement" in MMOGs. I'm not sure the majority of people would agree with you there. In fact, I think a lot of people would say that the fact that people feel the need to play while AFK means the game is lacking in content and interesting things to do. Not exactly what I'd call the next big step in MMOGs.

Personally, if I find myself so bored in a game that I feel the need to leave the keyboard, I think that something is wrong with the game.

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woogums wrote:
In this case, the "path to Jedi" has got to be the lamest, most half-assed, braindead, naive and shoddiest cop-out of a game design in the history of online games. And they know it, which is why they're changing it.

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ArthurP wrote:

Try taking your profession out of the bigSPAM and ZOMBIE cities and operate a cantina in a player city that will have you. Now, most player cities aren't active 24/7 BUT on a good day you will see several patrons if your place is in a good location, and builds a good reputation.

Now, try to imagine building that good reputation by playing At-the-keyboard all hours of the day - since you can't anticipate the play schedules of pple in different time zone.

Imagine keeping your cantina active without using AFK - ever. Go ahead...

As a Master Entertainer by choice, with a highly rated Cantina, I can tell you that patrons are HAPPY to see a good AFK performer waiting for them when they come in for a heal after a tough battle. Yes, ACTIVE is best for social interaction and giving buffs, meeting ppl, etc. BUT, removing AFK from the game now, would not be a good thing.

MY problem with the entertainment world, is that so few entertainers make it into the player cities to call them home. They tend to stay in the game cities (and whine about it) or join an all entertainer city/guild (what is THAT about). Player cities MUST have services if they are to thrive - and YES, entertainers ARE needed and appreciated.. the trouble is, many entertainers are just to stuck on themselves to become useful.

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PAs have never been good to entertainers. Player cities, less so. You see,many of themdo not want a cantina or entertainer at all, theyjust want a BF station. Frankly, you can get that at a city hall with a novice entertainer. And to me, why should an entertainer bother? Player cities never pay enough to staff their venue on the slight chance someone may come inside, and Coronet needs and appreciates someone like me who actually talks to patrons. Granted, just as Dathomir is a tough place to earn cash, Coronet can be a tough place to earn cash with the AFKs and the spammers; but then again, I don't seemany advanced playersleaving Dathomir because its too hard.

Now, if you were to pay me a flat rate of 100k to staff your venue for 6 hours, I may be inclined to change my mind; but you see, that's the problem, isn't it? Sound like a lot? I can make that in TWO hours in Coronet on a good day. Its the same reason you don't have doctors in the med centres. Players want services, but they do not want to do what it takes to get them there. Not only that, but I will notmule my charater simply because a PA wants it. You want a mule? Go buy one for $49.95 and $15.00 a month. Don't expect me to pay that for you simply because you are Guild XYZ in City ABC. When I'm on, I want my friends to know I am there, and not have them guessing wheather I'm there or not there. Sure, it helps me get along with the PA, but makes me hated by everyone else...ESPECIALLY those who are opposed to the PA.

"Stuck on myself?" Probibly. But then again, aren't player cities and PAs? If cantinas weren't available to player cities, would you still need and appeciate an entertainer in your city limits? HARDLY. I'm beginning to think player cities are a bad idea, only because it takes players out of the greater community in favor of a much more closed and smaller community. We need to have lots and lots of people coming through to earn a living and get satisfaction entertaining. NPC cities do that. Player cities do not. An entertainer cannot survive with those constraints, so we have this situation.

So here's my question to you: why do you want a player city, when you can get everything you need through an NPC city and living in close proximity to it? Its all about GOODIES (crafting bonuses and such), and ego (our PA is kewl enough to build it). Hardly reasons why you should shame entertainers into AFKing there.