Entertainer Archive
Thread: I asked...I got an answer. :(
It made me feel a lot better when I woke up this morning. I think a lot of us are willing to wait(but not all). But, if we have to wait, please don't end this line of communication until that time. Knowing that we aren't forgotten, that you devs have a plan, and what your feelings are towards our issues goes a long way towards boosting morale and giving us real hope that our turn will come someday.
Beery wrote:
"I do have to disagree on the notion that as a developer you should do nothing between now and our profession revamp. My personal opinion would be to simply remove entertainer buffs for the time being."
Why go that far? Whynot just remove the ability to group buff. It's a quick fix that would stop most casualbuffbots in their tracks, and it would label the rest of them as using 3rd party macros in violation of the TOS.
The reasoning behind my opinion is that the main complaint i seem to hear is, i need buffs to be competetive in pvp because joe has them and if he has them and i do not i will lose. Well if they are gone neither party has them and the advantage is null. It no longer matters if joe has a buffing alt to give him that advanatage while his oponent does not.
I do not agree that they are a neccesity for pve either.Having done every type of pve there is without mind buffs, it is not only possible but easy. However Warryr is most likely correct in that this type of solutionwould neverbe implemented for fear of the torrent of hatred that would spew forth from the buffbot using community. I refuse to refer to them as the combat community any longer because I am member of the combat community as well, and do not use buffbots. Or mind buffs at all for that matter.
The way i see it is it benefits both the buffbot user and the entertainer. The user has a step taken out of his combat prep, he doesn't have to make the trip to the buffbot at all anymore because his oponent is not making it either. Time is saved by him, and thespam gurgling automaton is out of my cantina.
Message Edited by Dreamland on 11-05-2004 09:59 PM
MyT_Chicken wrote:
Thought I would ask for myself. I'm not gonna get to worked up about it, and I would hope none of you do either. Macro's will die....eventually.
Clicky
Good. Now I don't have to pretend I don't know.
Message Edited by Drygo on 11-04-2004 07:15 PM
Shaizann wrote:
Ouch, thats pretty bad when the devs reccomend we quit. I suppose that is a rather strong message from them then. What did we do to deserve such a shoddy attitude from them? I don't mind waiting our turn, but it feels as though we've been waiting forever. I know the summglers, for example, feel the same way. They got the shaft on their promised revamp. It is really hard to swallow that the devs themselves are telling us there is no hope for a long time yet to come and we should give up. I'm bummed out now whereas before I had some hope.
It's nothing to really have hurt feelings about. They just feel that we weren't implemented correctly and there are some major design flaws with our original concept. They say that the ability to completely automate our prof through the macro system was a mistake, but nothing short of a major coding and design effort will be able to fix it. That has to be put after the CU (they were promised first) and a few other already scheduled items.
I, of course, freaked out and screamed "no no no, now now now!!!" and that's what I was told. Basically, even if we all quit, they still couldn't do this right now. They do finally care, they just already have things going on that have to be dealt with first.
We are in line. We weren't before. This is better. I've decided to stay on and party as a chorus girl during the wait and support our new DC. If you guys don't think you can hang, I won't give you a hard time about it. Unfortunately, even a mass exodus of Ents can't even speed up the process here. They care enough, they just can't afford to do anything about it till after these things are wrapped up.
I still have fun as a Dancer, not the same kind of fun I used to our in the same ways, but I still do enjoy being a Dancer... so I'll be here for the long wait. If some of you can't, then I'll see you when you get back and we'll miss you till then.
and, after all this, I just hope the devs do something amazing for us, because we will certainly have earned it...Message Edited by Utess on 11-05-2004 02:33 AM
Message Edited by Drygo on 11-05-2004 04:26 AM
Are you saying, Panthu, that the devs told you to tell dancers that if they didn't like waiting another x months for a revamp and relief for their profession, that we should quit and not feel bad about it?
I need to be sure of their exact words here, it'll be a nice wrapup to the timeline. Can you verify this for me? Please make sure you're not paraphrasing what they said.
Thanks!