Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Got a few things answered...
First question was asked back before things even hit TC, about making other modules like the auto-repair count towards combat rating (I think its a non-issue now... but we did get an answer).
"I'm sorry, but this isn't going to change. It is important that different modules have different choices and limitations. Otherwise you would end up seeing everyone with the same sort of droids and modules because it had the best advantage ala composite armor.
Adding combat level bonuses for auto-repair, stimpack dispensor, and medical modules just gives an additional bonus and detracts from the choices made for the droids."
Other one was in reguard to all droids ending up with the same combat benefits, and chassis no longer playing any role.
"The models shouldn't have different combat stats because it would also lead to a "best item" and limit the amount of droid variety. This also isn't going to be changed."
And before anyone asks, yes I did point out that not having bonuses to specific droids makes the R3 clearly the "best item"...
Jenden wrote:
Unfortunately not really the ones we needed (and not really the answers we wanted).
First question was asked back before things even hit TC, about making other modules like the auto-repair count towards combat rating (I think its a non-issue now... but we did get an answer).
"I'm sorry, but this isn't going to change. It is important that different modules have different choices and limitations. Otherwise you would end up seeing everyone with the same sort of droids and modules because it had the best advantage ala composite armor.
Adding combat level bonuses for auto-repair, stimpack dispensor, and medical modules just gives an additional bonus and detracts from the choices made for the droids."
Other one was in reguard to all droids ending up with the same combat benefits, and chassis no longer playing any role.
"The models shouldn't have different combat stats because it would also lead to a "best item" and limit the amount of droid variety. This also isn't going to be changed."
And before anyone asks, yes I did point out that not having bonuses to specific droids makes the R3 clearly the "best item"...
Huh? Each of those statements were in direct contradiction of each other.
I hope that I am correct in the belief that this is info passed on from TH. If that is the case, then there is hope, since half the time TH has no clue as to what is being asked and how to ask the question.
Message Edited by Drashk on 06-15-2005 03:27 PM
EnigmaBSc
I think the line of thought they had with the second one was that if one droid got a bonus, then it would always be superior to the others and no one would use anything else... problem with that logic is that it doesn't take into account giving different droids different benefits, and the fact that more module slots are a benefit as well.
EnigmaBSc wrote:
Well, that post just caused me to explode on Tiggs in the discussion forum. They really don't have a clue.
EnigmaBSc
Please don't explode on people... takes forever to get the guts out of a shirt.
Seriously though, I have just as big of a problem with the answers than the rest of you, but we do need to keep civil about it. If we blow up when we get information, we won't get more information. Criticizing is fine, just do it constructively/productively.
Jenden wrote:
Other one was in reguard to all droids ending up with the same combat benefits, and chassis no longer playing any role.
"The models shouldn't have different combat stats because it would also lead to a "best item" and limit the amount of droid variety. This also isn't going to be changed."
And before anyone asks, yes I did point out that not having bonuses to specific droids makes the R3 clearly the "best item"...
I am absolutely bloody flabbergasted !!!!
Does the Dev concerned not know that different models have different slot capabilities?
It's difficult not knowing what question was actually asked, but he needs to understand that combat stats should be a function of combat module quality and quantity, NOT chassis.
In other words it should be possible to craft an R3 with rubbish moduls and an R4 with good ones, and the two to have the same combat offensiveness. Health on the other hand SHOULD be a function of Chassis, at least the max cap should be set by Chassis, and even then that should be experimentable..thus providing for the R3 to have low health (rubbish materials) and the R4 to be best in its class (within the cap for the chassis)
How hard is it for him then to see the result is more diversity....even though R3 is always the best item.
This is all getting very very silly..what Galaxy are they in? Remind me, cos I know its not this one.
***Edit
Ahh so now I know its TH, that well known expert on all matters Droid./cry
Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 06-15-2005 03:40 PM
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
Jenden wrote:
Other one was in reguard to all droids ending up with the same combat benefits, and chassis no longer playing any role.
"The models shouldn't have different combat stats because it would also lead to a "best item" and limit the amount of droid variety. This also isn't going to be changed."
And before anyone asks, yes I did point out that not having bonuses to specific droids makes the R3 clearly the "best item"...
I am absolutely bloody flabbergasted !!!!
Does the Dev concerned not know that different models have different slot capabilities?
It's difficult not knowing what question was actually asked, but he needs to understand that combat stats should be a function of combat module quality and quantity, NOT chassis.
In other words it should be possible to craft an R3 with rubbish moduls and an R4 with good ones, and the two to have the same combat offensiveness. Health on the other hand SHOULD be a function of Chassis, at least the max cap should be set by Chassis, and even then that should be experimentable..thus providing for the R3 to have low health (rubbish materials) and the R4 to be best in its class (within the cap for the chassis)
How hard is it for him then to see the result is more diversity....even though R3 is always the best item.
This is all getting very very silly..what Galaxy are they in? Remind me, cos I know its not this one.
***EditAhh so now I know its TH, that well known expert on all matters Droid. /cry
Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 06-15-2005 03:40 PM
That was a different question, this was asking specifically about chassis differentiation. Still working on the experimentation issue...
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
I am absolutely bloody flabbergasted !!!!
Does the Dev concerned not know that different models have different slot capabilities?
It was a TH answer.
TH hasn't the first clue on how to ask a developer a question that will produce the correct answer.
TH is pretty unknowledgeble when it comes to any Droid Engineer issue and trying to get him to admit that is like trying to get a straight answer on what is intended to work and what is not.
Criticism with a bite.
Message Edited by Drashk on 06-15-2005 03:48 PM
Drashk wrote:
Shian_Tavkin wrote:
I am absolutely bloody flabbergasted !!!!
Does the Dev concerned not know that different models have different slot capabilities?
It was a TH answer.
TH hasn't the first clue on how to ask a developer a question that will produce the correct answer.
TH is pretty unknowledgeble when it comes to any Droid Engineer issue and trying to get him to admit that is like trying to get a straight answer on what is intended to work and what is not.
Criticism with a bite.
Message Edited by Drashk on 06-15-2005 03:48 PM
So I now know (post edited)
I'm afraid to say it makes me feel worse not better. That guy should not be allowed to comment on Droids, his ignorance is famously etched on my memory from the dual droid publishes...ohhh the memory 