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Thread: Harvester Droids, quick Qusetion

CaptVonbek
Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:00 am
#1

Hi


It said that they will enhance harvesting ability slightly. does this mean that the amount harvested depends on the droid owners harvesting skill. so a novice scout with a droid will not harvest as much as a master scout with droid?


Thanks

Morturr
Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:04 am
#2

Its hard to tell right now - because the numbers are kinda messed up.



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Squygxicus
Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:47 am
#3

Hopefully its too early to tell, but so far (according to the Ranger correspondent). Its either you OR your droid that harvests. So it will actually not get you more resources but I guess just make it easier for long distance harvesting.


I am not on test, so I wish to put in this disclaimer everything in this post could be so wrong!

TheRealTK421
Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:48 am
#4

Yea, we don't know for sure how this is supposed to be playing out.

I made 2 R3 Adv 'uber harvest' droids last night, one had a bonus of 95, the other was 120.


It didn't seem to have a measurable impact but that might be due to other bugs/issues that are getting addressed right now.

/shrug

Right now, I'm waiting for the morning update notes for TC to get posted before I dive into things too much.



/bow

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Jenden
Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:49 am
#5

last test I ran (yesterday I think it was) the droid was harvesting exactly what the master would have (plus or minus 1 unit). However, due to the fact that the rating is labeled as "Creature harvesting bonus" and they are supposed to stack it seems, I think its supposed to enhance somewhat. But yea, your general idea is right I think, a novice scout with this should not be able to harvest as much as a master.



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TheRealTK421
Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:58 am
#6

Jenden,


What we really need to determine, I'm thinking, is the amount that should be harvested for a particular Harvest bonus in relation to the skill of the player.

So, what's not known is how much a Novice Scout should be able to get with a 120 Harvest droid vs. a Master using the same droid on the same mob type.


THAT would be a true test of how this should all scale in the long term.


I guess that means I need to try to make 2 Harvest droids with the same stats and get them into a Master's hands (and maybe grab Novice Scout myself to do the test). Then we can get some real 'scale testing' going...


/shrug




/bow

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Jenden
Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:09 am
#7

yea,I was trying to do something like that, only I was varying the droid stats instead of player stats. I've got novice scout (just picked it up to test this out) and can help out with that part.



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TheRealTK421
Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:08 pm
#8

Right on. I have a couple of the Corrs with my 'uber harvest R3s' that are checking this (tonight, likely).


...more to come, when I have it...


/bow

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Kaldeth
Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:13 pm
#9

Another question.


Will these droids be able to harvest while you are in combat? Or do they just 'chew the cudd' until you are out of combat to get cranking?



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TheRealTK421
Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:20 pm
#10






Kaldeth wrote:


Will these droids be able to harvest while you are in combat? Or do they just 'chew the cudd' until you are out of combat to get cranking?




They can harvest in combat. What happens is you set the droid to harvest (the corpse of what you just killed) and then you can move on to the next live mob.



/bow

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KzinKiller
Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:12 pm
#11

I'm missing something on how this module provides any utility whatsoever ...


Currently if I'm killing & harvesting mobs, I kill the first one, type /harvest meat, then kill the next one and hit cntrl-uparrow to repeat previous command, etc. etc. ... and if I'm rushed, I just kill everything first and harvest after.


So, with the droid, I don't see that I'm saving any time or mouse-clicks or typing at all. In fact it sounds quite likely I'll have *more* typing & mouse clicks to achieve the same result, plus pay for the overhead of droid maintenance and batteries.






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Jenden
Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:19 pm
#12






KzinKiller wrote:

I'm missing something on how this module provides any utility whatsoever ...


Currently if I'm killing & harvesting mobs, I kill the first one, type /harvest meat, then kill the next one and hit cntrl-uparrow to repeat previous command, etc. etc. ... and if I'm rushed, I just kill everything first and harvest after.


So, with the droid, I don't see that I'm saving any time or mouse-clicks or typing at all. In fact it sounds quite likely I'll have *more* typing & mouse clicks to achieve the same result, plus pay for the overhead of droid maintenance and batteries.








its more of a convenience thing for those scouts/rangers who like to take things down from a distance. I've already gotten some positive feedback from some people on TC. The general idea is you stay at distance with your weapon (generally a rifle), take a couple shots at the creature, use the scout droid to throw whatever trap slows it down, take it the rest of the way out, harvest without having to move all the way up to the lair, rinse, and repeat.



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Redskuller
Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:25 pm
#13






KzinKiller wrote:

I'm missing something on how this module provides any utility whatsoever ...


Currently if I'm killing & harvesting mobs, I kill the first one, type /harvest meat, then kill the next one and hit cntrl-uparrow to repeat previous command, etc. etc. ... and if I'm rushed, I just kill everything first and harvest after.


So, with the droid, I don't see that I'm saving any time or mouse-clicks or typing at all. In fact it sounds quite likely I'll have *more* typing & mouse clicks to achieve the same result, plus pay for the overhead of droid maintenance and batteries.






If you shoot a regular creature lair v. a mission lair, the regular creature lair will spawn more npc targets. the faster you clean up the bodies, i.e. harvest their resources, the faster you go through the mob and collect resources. Grouped with a droid and you get a combat/weapon xp bonus. I would be able to grind more xp and collect more resources using this type of droid I feel.




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