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Thread: Bounty Hunter Droid prices

Jarsamuelson
Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:43 pm
#1

I am not asking for prices, I just want to bring something to your attention. When the game came out BH's bough droids from npc vendors. It wasn't fair you the DE's, I agree. The npc droid terminals got removed and prices sky rocketed. That was to be expected.


One of the biggest complaints a bounty hunter has is we lose money on missions. Once you use droids and buy round trip tickets to Endor and such, you LOSE money on a bh mission.


In response to that issue the dev's made seekers to be used multiple times. What do you think happened next? The price was raised by 10k by De's.


Some DE's also won't make them. We BH's need these droids to advance. We hate to run out during a mission, but have gotten used to begging a DE to make one for a fair price


This is your forum. I didn't come to bash and complain, however the plead to have the npc terminals back is being discussed by bounty hunters.


I ask that you are reasonable. I don't think the npc terminal is fair to you, yet if enough people yell it will happen. Don't charge 10 times the cost of the old droid when the 10 uses was put in to aid bounty hunters.


Flame away I guess.




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CastorStablescraper
Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:59 pm
#2

I've been looking and I don't think that's true. If anything, there are DE's that basically are GIVING the droids away, which screws the lower level DE's since it's one of the only things they can produce that sells.

There's an entire thread below about prices. I've seen anywhere from 250 to 3000, for the 10-charge seekers.

I sell for 1500/3000, which is far below what the BH originally bought for, I make a little profit, and I can easily keep my vendors stocked. I also don't sell out of the bazaar so that the novice DE can advertise there.



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Nailliar
Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:00 pm
#3

What would you consider reasonable? I sell them for 1K per seeker, considering it was 200 per seeker on the NPC vendor, to get 10 droids or the uses thereof that would be 2k paid to the NPC,this priceis 1/2 the oldold NPC vendor price. I sellcrates of 5 at a cheaper rate per droid.Somewill say I'm high, some low, but this is whereI seemany of other DE's selling them on my server .l



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smrasmus
Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:32 pm
#4

His point is that you should not consider the 10 charges when setting the price. Just because you get 10 uses now and it would have cost 2k before for 10 droids does not change the fact that you are charging 5 times the old cost (1k vs 200). The charges were put in to aid the bounty hunters, not the droid engineers.
Khadgar
Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:37 pm
#5

When they were single charge I was charging 800 a piece, that's about um, 4C per unit of resources used.


Now I charge 1200, up to about 6C per unit, but the price drops to 120C per charge as opposed to 800 per charge before.




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Nailliar
Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:03 pm
#6

Yes, but you forget, with 10 charges, they need to buy only 1 droid to complete their mission or less depending on their skill lvl, and one Arakyd for up to 5 missions. So this changereduces the return business by a factor of 5 at the minimum up to a possible 10 times less business. From what I've heard it takes on avg. 3-8 Seekers to complete a mission, so 1 seeker could be used to complete 3 BH missions with good fortune.




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Anchmed
Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:40 pm
#7

Arakyd Probe Droid - 10 use model requires


78 + 20 + 75 = 173 units of resources ( look it up on swgcraft.com )


if you buy resources off the bazaar, your paying 3 credits per resource on average.


if you mine your own, your seeing anywhere from .5 to 1.25 credits per unit of resource.


To pull any type of profit and or cover your own mining expenses I recommend 2 credits per unit minimum, but this is only if you mine your own resources. I would set the price at 3credits per resource used to allow the non miner Droid Engineers the ability to be competitive here but not to inflate the price because of the number of uses.


3x173= 520 credits per Probe Droid, sell them in a factory crate 5 at a time, sell the crate for 2500 credits.


Now the BH has 5x10 or 50 uses of Probe droids for 2500 credits or roughly 50 credits per use, not bad for either side considering and everyone is happy.


People selling for around 200 - 300 credits are losing money or just breaking even and not knowing it because they haven't made these in a while, people selling them for 2000 credits PER droid are gouging but it will catch up to them when BH's stop buying from them.


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TeileIceblade
Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:15 pm
#8

Im talking the DE's side on this one of course i sell mine at about the same price the npc vendors sold 1 for per charge. The BH's get the extra uses out of them i might as well get the money out of them. Considering the curent state of droids this is my money maker. I sold 1 seeker for 1200 (pre patch) and im going o sell them the same after. The BH's are saving a ton on thes missions. If they want the price lower they'll have to buy from a novice DE. Currently DE's dont make much cash compaired to other artisan classes and now you want us to lower the price of our best sellers after they have been giving more charges per droid.



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Ithoe
Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:20 pm
#9

Price is typicaly determined by Supply and Demand. Not by some strange calculation of price of raw materials or time. If thatwas the way to price things McDonalds Fries would cost a nickel not a dollar.


Certainly demand is directly controlled by percieved value.If BH's are losing moneyon a mission they will notbuy them. I have no idea what the BH makes on a mission or what his costs are. I have no idea wether my prices are are good or not but i seem to be able to sell as many as I make. I have heard of some BH's making on the average 8k per mission. Ifsupply is increased by a factor of 10 (by some none economist developer) and demand stays the same the price should go down.


I used to charge 1k per Arkyd probe droid with 1 charge. ( or 1k for 1 use ) I now charge 2k per Arkyd Probe Droid with 10 charges. (or 200 cr for 1 use ) So for at least this Droid Engineer the price is now a quarter of the cost that it was. I think that is a Win for the BH and a Win for the DE.


Ithoe Evi


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Ithoe
Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:24 pm
#10

Its late .... I made a mistake in the previous post .. those are my prices and reasoning for seekers not arkyd probe droids
Kamaru
Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:59 pm
#11

Seekers i sell for 1.5k per or 7k a crate


Probes 2.5k per or 12k a crate


Both average out to way below what the vendors used to charge ya, its a fair price considering it takes 5 factory runs to create just 99 probes and 4 runs for 99 seekers


Also have to factor in the cost to get the energy to put in said factory, maint on that energy harveser, maint on the factory, and the cost of said resources that i make them out of.. Also a small profit margin so i can afford to advance in my proffession and pay for my house.

Knives10
Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:32 am
#12

After the patch with the charges my new prices are:

Seekers=1.5k
Probes=3k

I think those are pretty reasonable prices considering they have charges now.



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Blah247
Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:16 am
#13

Been trying to sell for 599 per 10 charge seeker and 999 per 5 charge probe. Sold 0 so far



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