Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: A little Background on Droidekas
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Noobhunter
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:05 pm
#1
Hi all! I've been reading up on the Droid Invasion Thread on DE threads and a lot of people seem upset that they won't be getting their Destroyer Droids yet. For those of you who don't know exactly who Nym is and why he has a planet full of them, here's why:
Nym is one of the main characters in the PS2 flightsim/shooter Star Wars Starfighter and Jedi Star Fighter. In Starfighter, the Nym is the leader of a pirate band on Lok, who are at odds with the Trade Federation. As the game progresses, Nym is driven out of Lok and the Trade Federation sets up a Droid Factory where Nym's pirate base used to be. This event takes place at about the same time as the Battle for Naboo in Episode 1.
10 years later, in Jedi Starfighter, Nym returns as a fugitive on the run from Trade Federation. With the help of the Jedi Ace, Adi Galia, Nym makes a series of successful rescue missions and raids and eventually gathers enough strength and arms to retake his base on Nym (which is one sweeeet battle in the game.) This battle takes place at about the same time as the Battle for Geonosis in Episode 2.
Now that the Trade Federation is gone, Nym is left in control of all the Battle Droids and Destroyer Droids that the Trade Federation once had. Thearmies of his enemy now belong to him.
So basicly, in this time that SWG takes place in, if you want aDestroyer Droid,the onlyway you should be able to get one is to get it from Nym.INHO I think that any high end combat droid (whenever they may be put into the game) should be the reward for completing a series of quests/missions. Kinda like RIS armor.
I also support the idea of Droid Certifications, where each profession has access to a different droid that can aid their skills/abilities, but I'd also like to see the rare, high end, uber droids rewards for completing a series of story based missions. I dont think that this will be a balancing issue because everyone who is willing to take the challenge will get access to the Combat Droid, not justgrinding to master ina certain profession.
I would also like to see a downside to using these high powered combat droids. Since these droids are so rare, they shouldn't be able to be fully repaired by a DE, and if it gets destroyed enough times, it should be damaged beyond repair. The only way to replace it is to do a new series of missions where the reward is a replacement combat droid. Also, since Combat Droids are illegal, I think that whenever a Rebel or Neutral player takes one out, he should be the target of this new Imperial Crackdown feature. If an Imperial Player has one out, he should be rewarded less faction points during PvP and mission completions, since even the Empire looks down on them, even when they use them themselves. Even Darth Vader was reluctant to hire IG-88, but he was so desperate to capture Han, he broke his own rules.
This is just my opinions, feel free to support my thoughts or flame them 
Kendrick Fetladral,
Novice Droid Engineer
Infinity Server
TheRealTK421
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:28 pm
#2
Three words:
It's
A
Game
I'm all for continuity (the 40+ EU books on my bookshelf and various collectibles are a testament to this).
However, I think we can forego some aspects of rigidly following continuity for the sake of making a better game.
It's all in how it's done.
I've always wanted to see Droideka be 'quest' reward items. You might, for example, have to perform 4 or 5 quite difficult quests to get the parts for it alone. Then, getting a schematic would be next to impossible. I like that it makes the Droideka (as a player used droid) something of an enigma...and maybe not something that every person will be able to run around with...
Keeping them rare as "Hey! I found this and fixed a long time after they were outlawed..." would be a very cool way of adding Droideka in the game...and could very well fit into continuity and make for interesting game play.
It's all in how it's done.
/bow
Respectfully,
It's
A
Game
I'm all for continuity (the 40+ EU books on my bookshelf and various collectibles are a testament to this).
However, I think we can forego some aspects of rigidly following continuity for the sake of making a better game.
It's all in how it's done.
I've always wanted to see Droideka be 'quest' reward items. You might, for example, have to perform 4 or 5 quite difficult quests to get the parts for it alone. Then, getting a schematic would be next to impossible. I like that it makes the Droideka (as a player used droid) something of an enigma...and maybe not something that every person will be able to run around with...
Keeping them rare as "Hey! I found this and fixed a long time after they were outlawed..." would be a very cool way of adding Droideka in the game...and could very well fit into continuity and make for interesting game play.
It's all in how it's done.
/bow
Respectfully,
Noobhunter
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:49 pm
#3
I a bit confused...were you flaming me or agreeing withme? I realize that this is "just a game." But this is a game where the players are meant to live the life of a person in the star wars universe. If we were to sacrifice the Star Wars background, then what is the point of playing SWG? I mean, there are plenty of other Star Wars games out there that you can finish in a couple of hours, but dont you think that in the case for SWG, since we are meant to spend months immersing ourselves in our desired professions before we can really accomplish anything significant, Star Wars background should be probably in the Top 3 most important factors of the game?
BTW thanks for supporting my feelings on the high end droids as mission rewards and I mean absolutly no disrespect on my above comment. I would agree with you saying "Its just a game" if we were talking about Jedi Academy or Galactic Battlegrounds...I just think that SWG is different because it requires so much commitment from the players.
TheRealTK421
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:58 pm
#4
I wasn't flaming.
There's a lot of continuity issues that I have with the game...but I know that they will never be addressed so I'm not hugely concerned with it. SWG is a game, first and foremost. That's just how it is...
I was pointing out that there very likely is a middle ground to be had on Droidekas, assuming that the Dev team will start thinking freshly about them.
It IS possible add them:
- in a balanced way (read: truly rare...not the rarity we saw happened to Holocrons)
- in a way that embraces, not conflicts with, continuity
- is still 'gamey' and fun
I am just not sure that the Devs will take the needed design/coding time to do it this way, to be honest.
Maybe I'm wrong and they will surprise us. I'm thinking....'not so much'.
/bow
Respectfully,
LOCOLeaderX
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:28 pm
#5
Can't a DE colect the parts of broken ones or get ahold of the blueprints of one. there not new teconolgy its been around for 20-30 years or so right? they were top of the line in epsoied 1, but would they still be by the time vader becomes a man?
Gribnitz
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:48 pm
#6
LOCOLeaderX wrote:
Can't a DE colect the parts of broken ones or get ahold of the blueprints of one. there not new teconolgy its been around for 20-30 years or so right? they were top of the line in epsoied 1, but would they still be by the time vader becomes a man?
This is my whole point as well. We got a cave full of these things and droid engineers are too supid to reverse engineer one of these things? There is one in pieces right at the front of the cave for crying out loud !! Get over this continuity crap and let a droid engineer have fun for once. We are hammered enough with false promises and had our only good seller nerfed long ago. Give this tripe a break. IT'S A GAME !!!
LOCOLeaderX
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:51 pm
#7
I just wan't a pet one. I dont care if it fights
I need a slicer to go reprogram one for me.
I need a slicer to go reprogram one for me.
Weissbrot
Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:22 pm
#8
Quests are bad, really bad. 90% of the game are off limits for me because i can't even hit my own feet with my rifle. And do you really think there are a lot of people out there that want to run around with you for two days just so you can see Jabba?
Of course this isthe inherent problem of this game: The DEVs are fixed on combat. Everything around it is eye candy and can be dealt with later.
Nailliar
Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:52 pm
#9
Nym has tons of them running around, being Nym's new best friend, what's to say I can't "borrow" his schematics or copy them now to make my own. All in the EU you mention. I'm sure I'm a smarter DE than that Bat-Eared freak of his that makes his droids.
DarthBukai
Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:26 pm
#10
I'm seeing a lot of continuity arguments springing up around droids and the concept/implementation of combat droids in this SW time period.
Two words: Creature Handlers.
Before you get your panties in a bunch about how combat droids are a continuity violation, you'd better take a good look at the violation represented by all the shirtless wannabe Tarzans running around with King Kong and Godzilla in tow.
Nailliar
Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:31 pm
#11
LoL .. IF we could have Godzilla, I'd be a CH hands down. Oh no, they say he's got to go. go go Godzilla! Oh no there goes Tokyo...Go go Godzilla!
Ablon
Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:40 pm
#12
Why don't we get back to the roots of what we are seking for our profession?
Gerenth
Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:41 am
#13
... you mean, games like SWG, Puck?
I would agree that games are apocrypha if you want to have a Star Wars Geek contest, but recall that we're firmly in the apocrypha here ourselves. While it's nice to be consistent with the canon, filling in the voids with info from games seems perfectly appropriate in this context.
I would agree that games are apocrypha if you want to have a Star Wars Geek contest, but recall that we're firmly in the apocrypha here ourselves. While it's nice to be consistent with the canon, filling in the voids with info from games seems perfectly appropriate in this context.
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