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Thread: Droid Report: Info on the Color-customization on Droid Chassis 'situation'

TheRealTK421
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:52 pm
#1

Okay...so...I know the deal on this now.

Let me state the problem first, just so we are all on the same page:


Droid chassis (LE Repair, R2, Probot, etc.) used to have a color-customization step right when you'd actually make the item (before Publish 7). This allowed DEs to create 'furniture'/display droids (in custom colors) for their clients. These would not function as regular droids...they were only something you could drop in your house for show.


Publish 8 will include a new 'display model'-like option for building ALL droids (not just the versions we had before).


As part of the work for getting to this feature for Publish 8, the color customization step got removed (since, I'm guessing, it will work differently down the line...and had to go).

So...we're unfortunately in a tight spot.


They have removed this step as part of getting to the new feature coming in Publish 8. But, that is some unknown amount of time in the future. It is not, I repeat, not a "bug".


For now (as best as I'm currently aware), this step will not be getting added back into chassis crafting. This means that you will not have the ability to custom-color chassis that are sold as 'furniture' again (until Publish 8 is released).


This is gonna hurt (it hurts me pretty good, as 'furnishings' was a good size of my business) but after having had it explained to me, it doesn't make sense to force them to backtrack on this. It's yucky we got stuck where we did with this...but there it is....


So, this isn't a "bug" as much as it is a step on the way to the new feature that had been requested.


Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings on this one, all. Obviously, I wish it were better news.



/bow

Respectfully,




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Deidre_DE
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:00 pm
#2

If this is in the interest of making things better then SO BE IT!


I'm an engineer, not a sculptor, anyway.


Deidre


TheRealTK421
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:02 pm
#3






Deidre_DE wrote:

If this is in the interest of making things better then SO BE IT!


I'm an engineer, not a sculptor, anyway.


Deidre




Yup...it's a step to where we wanted to get with this feature. So, it's one of those things that will 'sting' for awhile but will be for a better cause when it's all said and done.


/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
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Lonkley
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:03 pm
#4

Have they said without a question or a doubt future CHASSIS will be customizable?


Its not a big deal (ok it is) as long as we get the ability back in 8.





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Kollos
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:21 pm
#5

So they're removing our ability to provide a low-cost display item for people's homes?


Gee, thanks. I think. 90% of the display chassis that I sell have been customized with the customer's desired color... now I'm going to have to tell them that they have to take the default color or else buy a full droid to use as furniture.


A warning ahead of time seems like it might have been wise. This is EXACTLY the kind of miscommunication (or lack of communication) that upsets us so much. Yes, it will be nice to be able to drop all of our droids and have them displayable at some unknown point in the future, but we should have been warned about this nerf ahead of time.




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TheRealTK421
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:29 pm
#6






Lonkley wrote:


Have they said without a question or a doubt future CHASSIS will be customizable?


Its not a big deal (ok it is) as long as we get the ability back in 8.





I don't have a "without a doubt" statement. However, the Devs know that this type of market/product is big for us, so I suspect (99.999756%) that we will have the ability to color these 'display' model droids.


I'm not sure how this will work/go yet, but...

I suspect that when the new "display" deed type is made/dropped that anyone will be able to color it using a droid customization tool (just like to do for 'regular' droids).

This means that you can have that display model and change it from red to blue to green at your whim...and never even have to pick it up or move it.

But...................................................this is a guess only.



/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


SkyeDarkangel
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:34 pm
#7

The way I read it I took it to mean that "Examine"ing the Deed or the Examine window on a Vendor would show the droid chassis instead of the deed.



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TheRealTK421
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:35 pm
#8






Kollos wrote:

So they're removing our ability to provide a low-cost display item for people's homes?


For now...yes. It's just part of the procession of getting to where we all want to be (with full 'display' model droids that are customizable).


Gee, thanks. I think. 90% of the display chassis that I sell have been customized with the customer's desired color... now I'm going to have to tell them that they have to take the default color or else buy a full droid to use as furniture.


Yup, basically. However, let them know this is a temporary situation that will go away when Publish 8 hits.


A warning ahead of time seems like it might have been wise. This is EXACTLY the kind of miscommunication (or lack of communication) that upsets us so much. Yes, it will be nice to be able to drop all of our droids and have them displayable at some unknown point in the future, but we should have been warned about this nerf ahead of time.


Yes...I agree. Since I came in after the fact, I didn't have a chance to prepare everyone on this. For stuff like this (down the line), I'll be getting clearance to tell you anything/everything I can.......as soon as I can.




/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


TheRealTK421
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:36 pm
#9






Kollos wrote:

So they're removing our ability to provide a low-cost display item for people's homes?


For now...yes. It's just part of the procession of getting to where we all want to be (with full 'display' model droids that are customizable).


Gee, thanks. I think. 90% of the display chassis that I sell have been customized with the customer's desired color... now I'm going to have to tell them that they have to take the default color or else buy a full droid to use as furniture.


Yup, basically. However, let them know this is a temporary situation that will go away when Publish 8 hits.


A warning ahead of time seems like it might have been wise. This is EXACTLY the kind of miscommunication (or lack of communication) that upsets us so much. Yes, it will be nice to be able to drop all of our droids and have them displayable at some unknown point in the future, but we should have been warned about this nerf ahead of time.


Yes...I agree. Since I came in after the fact, I didn't have a chance to prepare everyone on this. For stuff like this (down the line), I'll be getting clearance to tell you anything/everything I can.......as soon as I can.




/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


Obo_alCan
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:38 pm
#10






TheRealTK421 wrote:





Lonkley wrote:


Have they said without a question or a doubt future CHASSIS will be customizable?


Its not a big deal (ok it is) as long as we get the ability back in 8.





I don't have a "without a doubt" statement. However, the Devs know that this type of market/product is big for us, so I suspect (99.999756%) that we will have the ability to color these 'display' model droids.


I'm not sure how this will work/go yet, but...

I suspect that when the new "display" deed type is made/dropped that anyone will be able to color it using a droid customization tool (just like to do for 'regular' droids).

This means that you can have that display model and change it from red to blue to green at your whim...and never even have to pick it up or move it.

But...................................................this is a guess only.



/bow

Respectfully,










Not sure about that. They are basically making the deed look like the droid, but it will still be a deed. Woukd the tools work on a deed?


I assume it will be like the BE pets, in that you can drop them for display before you tame them.


I don't suppose there would be too much difference between crafting a chassis and a droid for display since you could just use a non-advanced model, which might even be cheaper in some cases.








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DarthIguana
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:53 pm
#11

I can understand the purpose of deeds fro installations like houses and harvesters because they get lifted and moved, but why have them for droids at all? You can look at an untamed BE pet and see their stats now as well as the creature it self if I recall correctly. It would be really nice (and, here's a concept, consistant!) if droids worked in a similar fashion.

Chris



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MachineZed
Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:04 pm
#12

What I am picturing is we will no longer be able to color the chasis. If you look the regular droid takes just as many parts as the chasis. If we can view what the droid looks like in deed form, we will no longer have a use for the Chasis Furnature.

I don't see the devs taking something away from us just to recondition it and give it back.



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AudioOrgana
Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:04 pm
#13







TheRealTK421 wrote:





Kollos wrote:

So they're removing our ability to provide a low-cost display item for people's homes?


For now...yes. It's just part of the procession of getting to where we all want to be (with full 'display' model droids that are customizable).


We never asked for that, simply that we could create chassi for those droids that didn't have them (the R5, Power Droid, and Treadwell). Yet another case of giving us what we supposedly want by taking away one of the few valuable things we had. It is honestly getting so sad it's almost funny at this point.


So where are we now? Droids that had their one true asset, armor, taken away, and now the one thing that kept many DE's afloat was making chassis as furnature.


It's not even leading someplace that "we all want to be".


They have removed this feature from the game, and now people will only be able to buy deeds.


Taking away what some see as an essential function (making furniture) to give us some peripheral luxury (displaying droid deeds) is shooting us in the foot and asking us to be positive about the new shoe they put on top of it.


Gee, thanks. I think. 90% of the display chassis that I sell have been customized with the customer's desired color... now I'm going to have to tell them that they have to take the default color or else buy a full droid to use as furniture.


Yup, basically. However, let them know this is a temporary situation that will go away when Publish 8 hits.


So on top of apologizing for the mess this "Invasion" has brought, we can tell people, "Don't worry, you'll be able to pay me twice as much later to buy a full droid that you don't really need." That's reassuring.


Unless these droids actually have function (i.e. a deed with a medical module acts as a medical droid), this is a monumental waste of time to correct what was a minor concern in the first place, now asking us to swallow ANOTHER huge nerf in the process.


A warning ahead of time seems like it might have been wise. This is EXACTLY the kind of miscommunication (or lack of communication) that upsets us so much. Yes, it will be nice to be able to drop all of our droids and have them displayable at some unknown point in the future, but we should have been warned about this nerf ahead of time.



Yes...I agree. Since I came in after the fact, I didn't have a chance to prepare everyone on this. For stuff like this (down the line), I'll be getting clearance to tell you anything/everything I can.......as soon as I can.


You mean for the few of us that might stick around after getting slapped, beaten, and the two things we had going for us (Probot Armor and Furnature Chassis) get snatched away,when they again decide they want to beat us down with something else - we will be told ahead of time so we can say, "Thank you?"


That's reassuring.


Look, I know they have put a lot of time into droids - but again, I'm wishing, with many other DE's, that they'd just left us alone in the first place.


I would have rather been broken than gimped, which is what we are now.






/bow

Respectfully,









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