Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Why is everyone so disgusted with Publish 7 ??
Gron_DM wrote:
-shrug-
with repair kits we are finally marketable...that and a BLL w/ 1 combat mod and meduim armor
my guess is people are just frustrated from waiting. i am too, but i dont see anypoint in getting mad anymore.
Did they change it so the BLL can take a combat module now ? If so, awesome! Alll the better. The BLL serves no purpose now, with a combat module at least it would be worth making them.
Why?
Droid Invasion
DROID INVASION
Frankly, I don't feel invaded.
Gribnitz wrote:
We all knew that publish 7 was going to be the low level combat droid pass with maybe a few bug fixes.
I am quite impressed with the new probot for being a CL 10 droid. It's a hella better than what we had before.
I am happy to get a talking combat droid again. I miss my old sarcastic Probot. Too bad he only had 25% resists.
I am happy the DZ70 is combat capable. A nice cheap combat droid to sell to the just starting crowd that will have more than 180 HAM.
I am happy that we FINALLY get to make and sell healing kits for the droids.
And finally I am happy that batteries will be worth thier cost now. Doubling the life of a battery is a great improvement.
Let's wait to really **edit** and moan about Publish 8 until we really know what is going into that one.
Personally, only two of those changes effects me - the Probot enhancement and the droid stimpacks.
I think the issue for many is that this is called a "Droid Invasion", across the board, not "Droid Engineer Slight Enhancements". When people log in, for a month they are going to see "DROID INVASION!" in the launchpad, where very little is going change for them in terms of their game experience.
It's not that these slight improvements are not welcome, it's that they do not a Droid Invasion make in many people's eyes.
As to waiting until Publish 8 comes and then complaining, it makes much more sense to have discussions on it now, before they even get it finished - we have much more of a chance of getting positive results in the patch if we get those ideas across now instead of just sitting and complaining when it's already here which will do little good.
I think many of us had hoped that there would be bug fixes (TALKING DROIDS NEED NAMES TOO!) and issues addressed (module/frame combos that are busted) that we were told was to also be a part of the Droid Invasion. Those bugs that we were told didn't need to be brought up because they were already part of the "package" haven't arrived.
For DE's specificly, Publish 7 does mean a fair amount more work as well. I only generally make Probots (only do other models as special orders), and now instead of constructing nine components per bot I have to make 20 - and if the factory timer on combat modules stays as high as it is, I'll be spending probably three times as long doing factory runs of crates.
Add those things up : 1) Many of us know the public won't think there is much new for them here (many of them are under the false impression that Droidekas are moments away from being put in game), 2) We still have all the old bugs staring us in the face, and 3) Between the upped Probot costs and the huge increase in named resources and subcomponents for Stim packs, we just got a whole lot more work to do, while 1) and 2) are still in play.
1+2+3(1+2)=Unhappy DE's.
The Dev team really should open lines of communication as fully as possible at this point - silence and the last red-name words spoken on this board are just making people more upset, not less. We need to be told exactly what we can and cannot expect out of the DE profession so we can all make our personal decisions to stick with it or not.
Audio
(edit: signed my name one too many times) 
Message Edited by AudioOrgana on 03-06-2004 01:35 PM
No, BLL's are still not combat capable.
Gribnitz wrote:
Did they change it so the BLL can take a combat module now ? If so, awesome! Alll the better. The BLL serves no purpose now, with a combat module at least it would be worth making them.
Would have been an invasion if we could build (toned down versions) of the droids on the new corvette dungeon.
G'na
Master DE on tc1
Message Edited by Lonkley on 03-06-2004 10:55 AM
Gribnitz wrote:
We all knew that publish 7 was going to be the low level combat droid pass with maybe a few bug fixes.
I am quite impressed with the new probot for being a CL 10 droid. It's a hella better than what we had before.
I am happy to get a talking combat droid again. I miss my old sarcastic Probot. Too bad he only had 25% resists.
I am happy the DZ70 is combat capable. A nice cheap combat droid to sell to the just starting crowd that will have more than 180 HAM.
I am happy that we FINALLY get to make and sell healing kits for the droids.
And finally I am happy that batteries will be worth thier cost now. Doubling the life of a battery is a great improvement.
Let's wait to really **edit** and moan about Publish 8 until we really know what is going into that one.
BlueMorgoth wrote:
Simple answer is that people aren't happy unless they are moaning about something. Even if you gave them everything they wanted, they would still find someone to whine about. Unfortunately, 90% of the DE population seems to be that way. Be like me and not care what others say and just have fun with whatever the devs do. Get angry when the break something that prevents crafting or some other catestrophic error, but not care about anything else.
very true
Jenden wrote:
BlueMorgoth wrote:
Simple answer is that people aren't happy unless they are moaning about something. Even if you gave them everything they wanted, they would still find someone to whine about. Unfortunately, 90% of the DE population seems to be that way. Be like me and not care what others say and just have fun with whatever the devs do. Get angry when the break something that prevents crafting or some other catestrophic error, but not care about anything else.
very true
"People just like to complain" is the easy way out of a discussion where you have no valid points.
If you both agree with this line of thinking you certainly haven't been paying much attention to what people have been saying.
It's great that you are completely happy with the DE profession, but to deny the very valid reasons people are not happy with the "droid invasion" is not how to go about it.
It's funny about people that can be happy with the situation try to silence those who are not - because if you were truly happy and didn't care in the first place you wouldn't be in this thread complaining.
Audio
People who are not satisfied with this profession as it is right now are not happy. Rightly so. And, as the weeks go by, it becomes more and more obvious that they'll never be happy, because the changes coming with 7 and 8 will not change much of anything. And once 8 happens, that's it for us. The devs are moving on to other professions.