Droid Engineer Archive

After almost a year of being a master artisan/de and the enduring the relatively low demand for our products, to see people selling our products for LESS than 2cpu makes me sick. hell, you could just make it easy on yourself and sell the resources for 2cpu and come out ahead....but no you have to screw up the economy.

now I know why I get the occasional complaint tell about charging 5 cpu for *finished* product that required mastering a profession, gathering the resources, and the time to craft and/or do factory runs. hell if the time and effort isn't worth more than 2 or 3 cpu then why bother.

today's particular case had someone promoting items for 15k each. I look up the resources required and lo and behold, 8000 units total. That's 1.875 cpu you're selling for.It's these nimrods thatscrew upprices across the board. A new character with 0 skill boxes can sell the raw materials and make more per unit than a so called "elite" crafting profession? great setup.

Ressource has more use than droids.

Offer and demand, that's the law.

I'm with you on this one... I see people selling vehicles for 2 CPU or less all the time (your 8k resources example sounds like a Swoop Bike to me) and it's just insane.

I really wish there were some way to "de-craft" an object into the components used to make it. I would LOVE to go around buying up speeders and swoops from idiots who are selling them for 12k and 15k respectively so that I can re-sell the resources for 3-5 CPU.

I'd resell the vehicles themselves, except that the idiots have destroyed the market for vehicles to the point that you simply can't sell 'em for much more than 2-3 CPU. I don't even craft my own vehicles anymore because it's literally cheaper for me to buy from some idiot selling for 2 CPU. (My own personal resources are all worth at least 8-10 CPU... I've been harvesting and filtering my resources for 9 months now, so my own private stock is of exceptionally high quality.)

I see people selling vehicles that low and I get the random jerk who wants me to sell him one for that price but my prices have been pretty stable since vehicle patch. 25k X34, 32k speeder, 40k swoop. I actually had to raise my swoop price to 45k because they would sell so fast. X34 are not selling well, so may have to lower them some but people are still buying. They are sale in my shop on Bloodfin outside Coronet. There are some people selling swoops for 50k+ still so the market is not gone. You just can't sell a bunch in the starports anymore which is fine with me. Never did that anyways.

I sell my vehicles for at least 6C/U, more if the quality is above 90%. I can't say that they are hotseller, but I'm sure that I make more credits this way than selling 20 deeds a week for 2C/U (or less).

I have this same problem on my server... and it irritates me to no end.

A Medical droid gives a never-ending +10% to a doctor's buff.

These doctors will pay 200k for a case of bivoli... +24% to their buff, but the charges run out eventually, and they have to spend another 200k. But they will spend it.

Try selling a droid with a Med Module 6 in it for 50k+ and you get a LOT of laughter because of the people who sell them way too cheap. The market is there, the demand is there, the cash is there, but some folks are too damn blind, or stubborn, to see it, and grab it.

Deidre

bria artisan i agree totally with you.

and its cause that low cutters make in their little brains a huge win. rofl, but actually they dont and wont survive real life business very long.

they make imaginary win yes, but not a real win, sicne the resources for a swoop example have to be high end stuff with good stats.

such resource i can sell pure without work easy for min 5cpu, such guys are simply stupid. a good businessman tries to get what the market bears and they simply get some crappy win on what they use and not compare it to what they would get without any work by selling pure resources.

i sell my adv doctor R3s for 100k and sell them well. so be prud Mr 2cpu guy, you are just no businessman. no offence but you do not good job since u could and the market would bear it

Although there are a lot of us 30 somethings that play this game (one benefit from star wars), You have to remember that a lot of players do not have a clue about economics being as that they are just teenagers. Also, they aren't going to care, they don't understand supply and demand and are not going to be bothered with it.Most of them have yet to understand how to look at the big picture just from lack of life experiance not stupidity. Remember what it was like being a teenager? They play to have fun, nothing wrong with that.

An experianced high school teacher.

Message Edited by Tarkane on 04-20-2004 06:18 AM

/sigh

Undercutters are one of the reasons why I have semi-retired my MDE..

I'll still build and sell BH equipment via vendor, and I'll keep my vendor(s) well-stocked... I'll flat refuse to sell any combat model other than the DZ70 series and Probot series.. and will only sell Astromechs, LEs, Protocols, etc... in Utility configurations... and even thesedroids I'll only periodically load into a vendor. If folks buy them... fine. If not.. too bad.. so sad...Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

I'm currently working a different set of combat and crafter 'toons on Sunrunner anyway. Marking time until the Space Expansion goes "live"... quietly building up my Imperial Rank and Faction Points... awaitingthe day when I can requisition a T/I, locate these "undercutters" and show them what it's like on the "sharp end of the stick".

Message Edited by Pallida on 04-20-2004 08:57 AM

Message Edited by Pallida on 04-20-2004 09:05 AM

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Jaxus wrote:

Although there are a lot of us 30 somethings that play this game (one benefit from star wars), You have to remember that a lot of players do not have a clue about economics being as that they are just teenagers. Also, they aren't going to care, they don't understand supply and demand and are not going to be bothered with it.Most of them have yet to understand how to look at the big picture just from lack of life experiance not stupidity. Remember what it was like being a teenager? They play to have fun, nothing wrong with that.

An experianced high school teacher.

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Maybe also other players just don't have the same goals of making big money.

I wanna see droids everywhere.
I sell most of my droids on the bazaar.
Not a big deal as most of them are low level droid (1 or 2 modules max) unavailable in regular DE shop.
But modules are the same.
Kind of trying to create a market.

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Jaxus wrote:

Although there are a lot of us 30 somethings that play this game (one benefit from star wars), You have to remember that a lot of players do not have a clue about economics being as that they are just teenagers. Also, they aren't going to care, they don't understand supply and demand and are not going to be bothered with it.Most of them have yet to understand how to look at the big picture just from lack of life experiance not stupidity. Remember what it was like being a teenager? They play to have fun, nothing wrong with that.

An experianced high school teacher.

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Message Edited by Pallida on 04-20-2004 11:02 AM