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Thread: JTL skill level and Astromech types
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GraySeven
Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:57 pm
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Today I made myself an advanced R4 unit with a level 6 data storage module in it. During the final combine screen I noticed a line that said "Astromech Droid skill level 6" or something close to it.
Do any JTL Beta DE's know if the skill level of droids is tied to their type (R2, R3, R4) or the modules inside (level of storage module) or a combination of both?
psikobunny
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:00 pm
#2
level of the pilot cert is tied to the level of the data module or flight computer.
JavelinCatcher
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:01 pm
#3
It is tied directly to the level of data storage module that was installed only. I've made a lot of R5's with varying levels of data storage modules for when people just ask me for one on the street.
Drashk
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:13 pm
#4
Umm...Gray, you might want to take the advice that I offered you the last time you brought this one up......Take a look at the DE 101 Thread.
Droid Data Module
Droid Data Modules can store Factory Draft Schematics. If installed in one of the R-Series Droids, a Data Module can be used in the X-Wing, Y-Wing, and Z95 Headhunter.
Level 1 Data Module = 20 Storage Capacity = Novice Pilot
Level 2 Data Module = 40 Storage Capacity = xxx1 Pilot
Level 3 Data Module = 70 Storage Capacity = xxx2 Pilot
Level 4 Data Module = 110 Storage Capacity = xxx3 Pilot
Level 5 Data Module = 125 Storage Capacity = xxx4 Pilot
Level 6 Data Module = 150 Storage Capacity = Master Pilot
GraySeven
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:19 pm
#5
Okay, D. The lack of understanding of that chart is that I was informed that some "item levels" go as high as 10...not sure what items or how this works. That chart only shows 6 steps from novice to master. Was not sure how droids compared to the rest of the JTL item creation and what-not. I don't recall a thread where we discussed this, and did not see the sticky concerning JTL and Droids.
Drashk
Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:23 pm
#6
GraySeven wrote:
Be careful, because each astromech droid types also requires a certain level of skill for the Player Character to be able to use it. Advanced R4's for example, require Astromech skill level 6. Don't go making a run of R2 units and expect them to sell right away since their won't be many people able to use them...
That being said, we need to have the skill level to use listed at the beginning schematic screen. This will allow the DE's to know what can be used when so that we can plan accordingly. Right now, the skill level only shows up in final combine and by examining the deed itself.
Ummm.....Gray, you might want to take a look at the information in the DE 101 guide, since your information is incorrect.
TheAstromech Chassis being used is not want is important. The Astromech Level is completely dependent on the Level of the Data Storage Module.
GraySeven
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:03 pm
#7
Drashk, not to be a pain, but your people skills need some work. Seriously. Through many of these threads you continue to point to the DE 101 sticky. One, please rename it to better reflect what the sticky acutally is. Two, while a lot of answers are in there, they often don't answer something completely.
For example, if I put a data module of each level into one astromech, what skill level rating is that droid? Can I use it throughout my piloting career? Or is the skill usage based off of the total quality of the combined data modules?
These forums are to share info and invited discussion. Constantly pointing to another thread does neither.
Drashk
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:16 pm
#8
Stickies are for many reasons...one of which is to answer questions that are asked4-5 times per week, which is the category that your question falls under. I'm sorry if you are unable to locate the information you were looking for, but it is in the thread. All Level based Modules are based on the module rating. Stacking is based on Module rating. If you place more then one module into the same droid, with a Module rating, the module rating will stack, with the exception of the Structure Maintenance module.
All of this information is clearly stated in the Droid Engineerin 101 Thread.
As for the name of the thread....I could name it 'Everything you ever wanted to ask about being a Droid Engineer or a Droid Owner and never bothered to do an Advanced Search on!' all in 20 point Flashing Red Capital Letters and people would still ask not bother to look in the thread and ask redundant questions.
You might try looking at it from my point of view. As Correspondent, I look through every single thread that is posted in this forum. When I see the same questions being asked on a daily basis, after having written one of the most thorough Droid Engineer guides on the Forums, makes a person feel as if it was a major waste of time, to try and help increase the overall wealth of knowledge of my chosen profession.
babyblue_d
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:27 pm
#9
GraySeven wrote:
For example, if I put a data module of each level into one astromech, what skill level rating is that droid? Can I use it throughout my piloting career? Or is the skill usage based off of the total quality of the combined data modules?
the moduels will stack (just like befor) making it a level 6 unit the droid will only be useable at level 6 cert
babyblue_d
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:37 pm
#10
The Astromech Level is completely dependent on the
Level of the Data Storage Modulelevel of the Data strage raiting (that nimber that goes from 1 - 13 )
I think this is where the confusion is. if i make a level 2 unit and get real good experimentation it could be a pilot level 3 droid. as the data raiting woulde be the same as a level 3 unit.
GraySeven
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:39 pm
#11
Or, you can just answer them or just ignore them for someone else to answer.
Yes, many questions will be asked over and over again, especially if its something new like the JTL items. This does not excuse poor people skills. I'd rather not be answered at all than to read yet one more person do the old "looks up at top of forum" response.
As a correspondent, you took on the task of improving your chosen profession and acting as an interface between the forums and the developers. The job isn't going to always be sunshine and roses. Information is sometimes hard to find or doesn't fully cover what is needed to know.
The amount of effort you've expended on this one subject is wasted simply because you could have just answered the question. What difference is it to tell people over and over to check "x" sticky or to tell people over and over the actual answer? It comes down to styles. You can't please all of the people and here we have to agree to disagree.
babyblue_d
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:45 pm
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gray .. drashik has a tough job and hes only human with human emotions im shure its NOT personal (maby he had a hard day at work) i can see both sides of it and its not that big a deal .. also there is a all things JTL stiky but lets try to get back on topic ..
maby this will help too
Astromech StorageData
LevelRating Capacity
1 1 - 2 20
23 - 4 40
35 - 6 70
47 - 8110
5 9 - 10 125
6 11+150"
LevelRating Capacity
1 1 - 2 20
23 - 4 40
35 - 6 70
47 - 8110
5 9 - 10 125
6 11+150"
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added not to my statment ... opps
also sorry to keep butting in
Message Edited by babyblue_d on 10-24-2004 05:53 PM
babyblue_d
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:51 pm
#13
GraySeven wrote:
Okay, D. The lack of understanding of that chart is that I was informed that some "item levels" go as high as 10...not sure what items or how this works. That chart only shows 6 steps from novice to master.
this is true but droid certs and ship parts certs at diffrent the reason for that is a SW can make you level 7 gear but at that level you can use 1-8 level 8 stuff can only be looted.. its to keep looted items and Reverse Engineering ussfull.
at 4444 you can use level 9 gear SW can make this but at maset pilot you can use level 10 gear which is only avalible by loot
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