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Thread: JTL skill level and Astromech types

GraySeven
Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:53 pm
#14


So, a level 6 module made using really poor materials and having a low rating can be used by lesser skilled individuals? The Rating, not the Level is what matters. That is where the confusion lies.


The level dictates the data storage size, i.e. a Level 6 holds 150 units. What does the rating determine and why is it important?


Okay, you guys are faster than I am in the answers. Each level has a rating range but its not a big enough range to cause any problems between rating and level. Hmmn.

Message Edited by GraySeven on 10-24-2004 07:58 PM



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babyblue_d
Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:00 pm
#15






GraySeven wrote:

The level dictates the data storage size, i.e. a Level 6 holds 150 units. What does the rating determine and why is it important?





this is where your confused this statment is wrong.


level determins the starting data raiting .. level 3 always starts out the same (at level 3) but you can experiment the data raiting higher to get a higher level of data unit.


like so :


lets say i have a level 3 unit and I dont experiment it

it willhave data raiting of 5 and hold 70 capasity and be certed fora level 3 pilot


now lets say I make another with the best resorses and experiment it

it will have a data raiting of 7 and hold 110 capasity and be certid for a level 4 pilot


now lets say I stack two level 3 units with raiting of 5 each

it will have a raiting of 9I think 5+5-1(for stacking) and have a capasity of 125 and be certed for a level 5 pilot

my math my be wrong on this last one



Astromech StorageData
LevelRating Capacity

1 1 - 2 20
23 - 4 40
35 - 6 70
47 - 8110
5 9 - 10 125
6 11+150"


Message Edited by babyblue_d on 10-24-2004 06:06 PM




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Drashk
Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:03 pm
#16

Quoted from the DE 101 thread


Section5 - JtL Droid
Guide


Astromech Certifications


Each of the Pilot professions gain Astromech Certifications as they progress. The Astromech Certifications are Level based from Level 1 at Novice, to Level 6 at Master. The following chart shows theAstromech Certification progression.


Novice Pilot = Level 1 Astromech Certification
xxx1Pilot = Level2 Astromech Certification
xxx2 Pilot =Level3 Astromech Certification
xxx3 Pilot =Level4 Astromech Certification
xxx4 Pilot =Level5 Astromech Certification
MasterPilot = Level6 Astromech Certification


Pilots can use a Flight Computer or an R-series droid with a Data Module installed in a ship that is equipped with a Droid Interface device, which is a Shipwright crafted item. The level of the Flight Computer or Data Module, installed in an R-series droid, must be equal to or lower then the Pilot's Astromech Certification.


Flight Computers
&
Astromechs


Currently Astromechs are only usable in the X-Wing, both Y-Wing configurations, and the Z95. Flight Computers are used in all other ships. Each Flight Computer/Astromech has a Data Capacity that is based upon the Level. Flight Computers, just like droids, are stored in the datapad once initialized. The following chart lists the storagecapacity of each level.


Astromech Data

LevelCapacity

| 1 | 20 |

| 2 | 40 |

| 3 | 70 |

| 4 | 110 |

| 5 | 125 |

| 6 | 150 |

Section10 - Adding it all up


In this section, I will cover how modules stack up with each other and the formulas that are used to discover what the rating mean to the base consumer.


Part 1 - Level Based Module
Stacking


Droid Armor, Item Storage, Data Storage, and Medical Modules can be stacked to produce the same rating as a Level 6 module. The following is a chart of how all stackable modules relate to each other


Module Stack MedicalItem Data Armor
Level Rating Rating Rating StorageStorage Resists
| 1 | 1 - 2 | --- | 55 | 1 | 20 | 4% |
| 2 | 3 - 4 | 3 | 65 | 2 | 40 | 8% |
| 3 | 5 - 6 | 5 | 75 | 4 | 70 | 12% |
| 4 | 7 - 8 | 7 | 85 | 6 | 110 | 15% |
| 5 | 9 - 10 | 9 | 100 | 8 | 125 | 18% |
| 6 | 11 + | 11 | 110 | 10 | 150 | 20% |


Two highly experimented Level 3 modules, with a rating of 6, can achieve the same rating as a Level 6 module. The Stacking rating is the target number that you are trying to achieve, when stacking 2 or more modules.






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GraySeven
Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:08 pm
#17


Never joined the Hologrind, never had a problem with Sintrosi. While I did have a holo say DE, I was dropping Merchant for something, and DE looked interesting. I've been a Master DE and Master Armorsmith and Master Artisan forever. Merchant is the only Mastery I dropped, and I've never completely dropped it.


I think I've gotten the answers I need through this, amazingly enough, and I thank you all for a lively discussion regardless of any personallity conflict .


I was under the assumption that the level of the module dictated certain things, such as storage size. Having always had the ability to make each level of module, I've never worked with stacking of "Level" type modules, only with things like Harvesting and Detonation modules and did not realize there was no difference.

Message Edited by GraySeven on 10-24-2004 08:12 PM



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duncje
Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:50 pm
#18






GraySeven wrote:

Or, you can just answer them or just ignore them for someone else to answer.




Or, you could just bother to look.




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Stravros
Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:51 pm
#19

yer i found this in beta if you making a data unit for a person dont experiment on it just make it, or you will make droid then they will be complaining they cant use it.
JaxStarblaze
Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 pm
#20

Gorantoth sure has made the DE 101 colorful


Hmm - I'm kind of a noob to posting (do alot of reading) - can anyone point me to a great post on how to do all the bell and whisles for text, signatures, etc..



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Drashk
Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:35 pm
#21




JaxStarblaze wrote:

Gorantoth sure has made the DE 101 colorful


Umm.....Gorantoth? I put together the DE 101 Thread. Gorantoth gave lubricating oil, hydorspanners, and did a few unmentionable ritiuals to keep the Centralized Droid Issues going for over a year. It was renamed in his honor.


Hmm - I'm kind of a noob to posting (do alot of reading) - can anyone point me to a great post on how to do all the bell and whisles for text, signatures, etc..



Best thing to do to create a sig is to create the sig that you want to see, using the forum posting ability, and then use the Edit As HTML function. Simply cut and paste the HTML version into your sig listing.





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ASHRID
Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:35 am
#22

Grey, I didnt think there was anything wrong with Drashk's replies - sure they were to the point but its not like it was a flame or anything


Chill out a bit man
GnomeAd
Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:00 am
#23

Ya know Drashk, I think I know what might be confusing the newer DEs about this. Right now, we seem to be focusing the stacking and Pilot level certs around the level of module. (i.e. Level 1 Data Module = Level 1 Pilot, etc.) Perhaps we should look at explaining it as a Data Module rating vs. Skill level instead.


What I mean is that a rating 1-2 data module is for a novice pilot. A level 3-4 is for a x-x-x-1 pilot, etc. If you experiment a level 1 Data Module high enough, it will have a rating of 3 and be for 1st tier pilots. The same goes for the other level modules as well as stacking them. It's really about the Data Module rating, not about what level of Data Module you use. Those of us who've been around for a while understand this, but if you're just coming it, it's a little obscure.
TheRealTK421
Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:07 am
#24

The easiest way to solve all this is:


To 'assign' a Droid Cert level to an astromech, just pick the right Data module and do NOT experiement on it.




Problem: Solved.




/bow

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CasualMaker
Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:17 pm
#25



Drashk wrote:
Pilots can use a Flight Computer or an R-series droid with a Data Module installed in a ship that is equipped with a Droid Interface device, which is a Shipwright crafted item. The level of the Flight Computer or Data Module, installed in an R-series droid, must be equal to or lower then the Pilot's Astromech Certification.



Oh, now this just sucks. If you already have an R-series droid with a top-of-the-line data module, you can't use it because it's too good for you! Instead you have to buy a new one each time you go up a level.



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TheRealTK421
Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:19 pm
#26






CasualMaker wrote:

Oh, now this just sucks. If you already have an R-series droid with a top-of-the-line data module, you can't use it because it's too good for you! Instead you have to buy a new one each time you go up a level.





This example is precisely why I cautioned all to be careful about acting on what the Devs might have said during beta.


When they mentioned Data modules during beta, I'm sure many ran out and cranked on the Level 6's...not realizing it would be some time before they could be useful for sale.




Until something is actually announced as going/being Live or 100% set in stone, this is why no one should act or try to guess. It can just......go badly.



/bow

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