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Thread: Okay, seriously. When can we expect a Droid Tactician thing...

HOTDOG
Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:50 pm
#1

I've been reading all the threads- I know we're going to make a pitch but I just want someone's- Everyone's opinion on whether it will happen and when. I want to do that thing- and master DE as well- but only if I can do the combat droid thing. In my opinion- it's the only thing that will save the profession for both crafters and those who want to play combat with their droids...






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Javac
Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:16 pm
#2

Given the current dev involvement and 'plan' for the profession, don't expect it at all.




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Shian_Tavkin
Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:25 pm
#3

All we know is the Devs have read the 'Hybrid' proposal.


The fact that there has not beeen a post from them that says 'NO' is encouraging


The fact that TK says they are thinking about it, because they want proper combat droids in game is encouraging.


So, lets not say 'never' yet eh?


Hope springs eternal, well, until and if the devs use weedkiller on a perfectly sound idea


Maybe, just maybe, they will see a Good Thing (tm) when it's right under their noses.



Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
HOTDOG
Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:17 pm
#4

I really hope they say yea- and can impliment it cause this is the character I have been longing to play when I heard the game was coming out- That and smuggler. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.






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Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
Tarne_Monter
Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:55 am
#5

I'm also holding out hope for the "Pushing back Combat balance so they can do it right". With the lack of input on the hybrid proposal from the Devs I think that maybe they are trying to balance combat droids with combat professions.
Or at least I hope so.



Tarne Monter from Elderhome, Naboo, Ahazi
Vendor "Tarne's Droids" in the Merchant Tent at 5680 4451 Naboo
Master Droid Engineer and Master Artisan
Smuggler 0/2/0/0

Kadaara, Naboo, TC
Marksman 0/0/3/0
TheRealTK421
Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:02 am
#6






Shian_Tavkin wrote:

All we know is the Devs have read the 'Hybrid' proposal.


Yup...it's been seen. And, there is still some amount of internal talk on how this will all go. They are VERY careful about this issue now, for a variety of reasons. They want to get CL10+ in as badly as anyone else...I know that much.


The fact that there has not beeen a post from them that says 'NO' is encouraging


Indeed.


The fact that TK says they are thinking about it, because they want proper combat droids in game is encouraging.


Yup...the better revised the DE Hybrid proposal becomes, the better of a chance they will say "Yes". However, if/when they do it is a different issue from how it's done. It's the latter that they want to focus on before they even consider the former.




/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


HOTDOG
Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:17 am
#7

Thanks TK- Man, you don't know how much I hope this happens- being able to build droids- and command 2 of 'em in combat (good ones now, not like the probots I have now) would be fun!

Especially if I could have them talk! Woooo Hoooooooooo!

Message Edited by HOTDOG on 03-25-2004 10:27 AM






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Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
Tarne_Monter
Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:51 am
#8



HOTDOG wrote:
Thanks TK- Man, you don't know how much I hope this happens- being able to build droids- and command 2 of 'em in combat (good ones now, not like the probots I have now) would be fun!

Especially if I could have them talk! Woooo Hoooooooooo!

Message Edited by HOTDOG on 03-25-2004 10:27 AM





Have you tried the probots against medium level stuff?
I was clearing out some tusk cat's in my city earlier today, and it was barely surviving with a non-experimented Repair Kit B heals(~560 energy), and kicking butt with experimented Repair Kit B's (~850 energy). I haven't tried out the R series droids yet or the DZ70 in combat. But the LE does decently well with my experimented RKB's, but since I'm not at RKC's yet I'm not sure how those will stack up probably make the LE kick butt to I imagine.



Tarne Monter from Elderhome, Naboo, Ahazi
Vendor "Tarne's Droids" in the Merchant Tent at 5680 4451 Naboo
Master Droid Engineer and Master Artisan
Smuggler 0/2/0/0

Kadaara, Naboo, TC
Marksman 0/0/3/0
HOTDOG
Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:15 pm
#9

No I haven't used the repair kits yet but I think I'm gonna have to get a hold of one of these LE droids. I've been reading a lot about them.






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Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
Shian_Tavkin
Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:20 pm
#10






TheRealTK421 wrote:





Shian_Tavkin wrote:

All we know is the Devs have read the 'Hybrid' proposal.


Yup...it's been seen. And, there is still some amount of internal talk on how this will all go. They are VERY careful about this issue now, for a variety of reasons. They want to get CL10+ in as badly as anyone else...I know that much.


The fact that there has not beeen a post from them that says 'NO' is encouraging


Indeed.


The fact that TK says they are thinking about it, because they want proper combat droids in game is encouraging.


Yup...the better revised the DE Hybrid proposal becomes, the better of a chance they will say "Yes". However, if/when they do it is a different issue from how it's done. It's the latter that they want to focus on before they even consider the former.





/bow

Respectfully,








Thanks TK


(This my third try to reply to you, I hate the login bugs on this forum grr)


This time short and sweet, in the hope that it will post.


I understand what you are saying, but it gets hard to refine something without any feedback. So far as I know we have addressed the 'brawler exclusion' issue you brought to our attention, so just what else do we need to 'further refine'?


Its way past time our Devs stopped by and gave some encouragement and helpful direction to this Hybrid proposal. I mean' how can we refine what we think to date is the best we can do with what scant information we have?


Seriously, I think we are beginning to flounder in the dark here now, somone who has been talking about it and 'who wants CL10+ droids in the game as much as we do' should really come down here and help us out. It's not like we dont want to work on it, it's just knowing exactly what to work on.







Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
TheRealTK421
Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:34 pm
#11






Shian_Tavkin wrote:

I understand what you are saying, but it gets hard to refine something without any feedback. So far as I know we have addressed the 'brawler exclusion' issue you brought to our attention, so just what else do we need to 'further refine'?


Not sure yet. I think I need to see (and put forth) the ver. 3 release that Sodan said he was working up. If the melee vs. ranged balance issue is ironed out in the proposal, then we are a lot closer. I'd have to have them see and consider a more current proposal to get some prompting on the kinds of issues we need to focus on to make the plan better (not that it is not good now...it is).


Its way past time our Devs stopped by and gave some encouragement and helpful direction to this Hybrid proposal. I mean' how can we refine what we think to date is the best we can do with what scant information we have?


I know what you mean. However, I also know that we don't want to take up a TON of the Devs' time on this. They have a lot of super important stuff they have to stay on top of...not just for us but for every profession. That's why it's best to get info flowing via me...so that I can grab a quick answer (hopefull) and get it back to you all to chew on.


Seriously, I think we are beginning to flounder in the dark here now, somone who has been talking about it and 'who wants CL10+ droids in the game as much as we do' should really come down here and help us out. It's not like we dont want to work on it, it's just knowing exactly what to work on.


Yup. The information conduit on this should really be me. I'll spend some time reading through the appropriate DE Hybrid threads again to geta feel for where this is at...

It would help a ton to get the revised ver. 3 proposal in place. Then we'd have a new baseline to tweak from...





/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


Shian_Tavkin
Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:36 pm
#12






Tarne_Monter wrote:





HOTDOG wrote:
Thanks TK- Man, you don't know how much I hope this happens- being able to build droids- and command 2 of 'em in combat (good ones now, not like the probots I have now) would be fun!

Especially if I could have them talk! Woooo Hoooooooooo!

Message Edited by HOTDOG on 03-25-2004 10:27 AM






Have you tried the probots against medium level stuff?
I was clearing out some tusk cat's in my city earlier today, and it was barely surviving with a non-experimented Repair Kit B heals(~560 energy), and kicking butt with experimented Repair Kit B's (~850 energy). I haven't tried out the R series droids yet or the DZ70 in combat. But the LE does decently well with my experimented RKB's, but since I'm not at RKC's yet I'm not sure how those will stack up probably make the LE kick butt to I imagine.





Tarne


Nobody is happier than me to find that you love the new droids..honestly I am overjoyed for you.


The trouble is you keep popping up with the happy happy joy joy thing every time anyone has a different opinion, and in this thread at least, thecurrent combat droids have absolutely nothing to do with it. The 'droid tactician' is an element of the hybrid proposal, and thats what this thread is about.


So, happy as I am that you are managing to kick a$$ left and right with your LE and your stimpack's (may they forever improve in quality, and may you continue to be happy) the rest of us are trying desperately to get somewhere else, just a little further on you know.


To that end, I somehow think that your joy is misplaced in this particular thread. Not everyone is happy with the current 'status quo', but as I said, I'm happy that you are.


Respectfully




Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Shian_Tavkin
Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:43 pm
#13

Hey TK


Dont get me wrong now, I'm as pleased with you being the conduit as I would be with direct input from a Red, and your way probably does stand more chance of achieving results I do agree.


Just to clear that up.



Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
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