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Thread: Armorsmith Corr. fired

Atan
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:39 pm
#1

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=armorsmith&message.id=82183



no idea what there happened in detail, but the AS now dont have a correspondent... and that during CU Beta

Message Edited by Atan on 04-15-2005 01:01 AM




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DarthRoe
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:46 pm
#2

Well, that explains why our correspondent is so pro-CU on the boards. He wants to keep his job.



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TheRealTK421
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:49 pm
#3






DarthRoe wrote:

Well, that explains why our correspondent is so pro-CU on the boards. He wants to keep his job.




I can tell you that Jenden's no "Yes-man". If there's something that needs to be brought up, he'll bring it.


By the way.....the Corr. thing isn't a "job". It's a caring player giving his/her time to help make the game better and the profession better, which they represent.

...to bring the concerns, issues and opinion of each profession and be a conduit for communication.


If he was let go for some reason, it's between him and the Devs. /shrug


/bow

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Atan
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:56 pm
#4

As far as i can gather from the AS Forum he tried to get them to send the DEV's Forum PM's about the current AS situation, the thread got deleted...


Not thethe best approach, thats true...




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Gron_DM
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:58 pm
#5

that thread has been deleted...not good for morale im guessing



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DarthRoe
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:02 pm
#6



TheRealTK421 wrote:


DarthRoe wrote:

Well, that explains why our correspondent is so pro-CU on the boards. He wants to keep his job.


I can tell you that Jenden's no "Yes-man". If there's something that needs to be brought up, he'll bring it.


By the way.....the Corr. thing isn't a "job". It's a caring player giving his/her time to help make the game better and the profession better, which they represent.




Well, if he's upset about the things we are, he's not posting about it. I haven't seen much communicated to us about our harvesters being useless with the grouping changes, or our med droids and repair kits being useless with the CU changes, or structure maint. being rendered obsolete by the bank withdrawal, or barker droids being useless with GVS (not to mention the sales hit).

I don't expect Jenden to be able to fix anything on his own, but it'd be nice if he sounded mad when we're mad. If he's communicating to the devs with a fury, the second part is relaying that back to the DEs.



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TheRealTK421
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:06 pm
#7






DarthRoe wrote:

I don't expect Jenden to be able to fix anything on his own, but it'd be nice if he sounded mad when we're mad. If he's communicating to the devs with a fury, the second part is relaying that back to the DEs.




Mmmm...sounding mad doesn't help. And, you know that I know whereof I speak.


The short version is that Okram called for something that was a /no-no....and he paid the price.

/shrug


No Correspondent (I'm aware of) has been removed for following the rules and presenting their thoughts on the state of a profession and it's concerns. It's how you do that which matters.



/bow

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DarthRoe
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:12 pm
#8



TheRealTK421 wrote:


DarthRoe wrote:

I don't expect Jenden to be able to fix anything on his own, but it'd be nice if he sounded mad when we're mad. If he's communicating to the devs with a fury, the second part is relaying that back to the DEs.


Mmmm...sounding mad doesn't help. And, you know that I know whereof I speak.


The short version is that Okram called for something that was a /no-no....and he paid the price.

/shrug


No Correspondent (I'm aware of) has been removed for following the rules and presenting their thoughts on the state of a profession and it's concerns. It's how you do that which matters.



/bow

Respectfully,






According to Tiggs, he was canned for having players take concerns to Devs directly, in addition to his voice. I think that should be a right of paying customers.



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GrandPotato
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:20 pm
#9

The right of any paying customer yes, but to basically organize a mob, no.

Free speech is free speech, but you can be arrested for "inciting a riot."




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TheRealTK421
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:23 pm
#10






DarthRoe wrote:

According to Tiggs, he was canned for having players take concerns to Devs directly, in addition to his voice. I think that should be a right of paying customers.





It was a rule. He broke it. End of story.


How much work do you think the Devs would get done if it were okay for folks to PM them directly, hmmmm?



/bow

Respectfully,





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DarthRoe
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:27 pm
#11



TheRealTK421 wrote:


DarthRoe wrote:

According to Tiggs, he was canned for having players take concerns to Devs directly, in addition to his voice. I think that should be a right of paying customers.


It was a rule. He broke it. End of story.


How much work do you think the Devs would get done if it were okay for folks to PM them directly, hmmmm?



/bow

Respectfully,






Well, there are "Devs" like Tiggs and TH that are paid to be community relations reps. If their PM boxes get filled, it's part of their job. It's not like they're doing the programming or anything.



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Reaperss
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:41 pm
#12

The player base is not being listened to. The daily polls show a consistant 80%+ negative rating for the CU. The interviews are full of lies. No offense to any current correspondents or blue glowies but if you guys don't make some noise and support him, and the crafter players it will be very disapointing. Every correspondent to a crafter proffesion should quit in protest. Or do what he is doing and ask us to send our concerns directly to them.



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Handsnake
Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:43 pm
#13

I saw the thread before they deleted and buried it. Tiggs was rather abrupt in her post which infuriated the armorsmiths (me too, actually - it was snotty). As well, they stripped him of the "blue glowie" which seemed to me to be just a wee bit far and personal.


The guy didn't specifically say "SEND PMS TO DEVS". He said to raise concerns with devs - when I read what he said, it sounded like he was encouraging people to raise issues in threads that devs were responding to.


In any event, if they don't fix the "level 1 crafter gets 1 shotted by every aggro" problem, I'm out of here too.



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