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Thread: Droid Report: What's being done about this....Invasion?!?

Laaba
Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:14 am
#92

TK - I admit I have used my droid to craft mobile - but it sure is nothing I cannot live without... and might add that if u are high enough rank the IMP crackdown just plain leaves u alone. As a Master Smuggler or anyone grouped with me they are 95% covered [if I read correctly]. Lol the other day I am riding my bike and I get caught in a investigation and thrown right off the bike. Then I get "Sorry Col..."


3 of your comments have to do with item storage... and the etc adds to the list to make it longer. So I can store a extra 30 items big deal for 6 to 10k I can buy a small naboo house and store 75/150 items in it.


I just don't even want to begin to get into the rest of your responses...


Laaba



The BEST 3 pet names I have ever seen are.... DearSOE PleezFix DaBugz
Kilarny
Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:15 am
#93

/sob


I want more utility! Just 4 new modules is a sort of limited amount of 'love.'


It strikes me that the high-level droid stims aren't for the mini-droids, they are for the higher-level ones that the development team has not gracefully integrated into the game (yet).


TheRealTK421
Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:22 am
#94






Laaba wrote:


TK - I admit I have used my droid to craft mobile - but it sure is nothing I cannot live without...


Well, I know that I wouldn't want to live without this feature, man. Maybe you are okay with out...I wouldn't be.


and might add that if u are high enough rank the IMP crackdown just plain leaves u alone. As a Master Smuggler or anyone grouped with me they are 95% covered [if I read correctly]. Lol the other day I am riding my bike and I get caught in a investigation and thrown right off the bike. Then I get "Sorry Col..."


Any time I've ever been scanned, I just get back on my Swoop and drive off. No big deal.


3 of your comments have to do with item storage... and the etc adds to the list to make it longer. So I can store a extra 30 items big deal for 6 to 10k I can buy a small naboo house and store 75/150 items in it.


Yea, I guess...but you won't have basically instant access to it. The point about storage is that droid storage 'buffs' your max. personal inventory space.

Again, maybe you don't see this as a big deal. To me, it's a really big deal. /shrug



I just don't even want to begin to get into the rest of your responses...


Look, I understand...you're 'down' on our situation. What would you like me to do about it, aside from what I'm doing now? I ask in all seriousness.

What do you expect that I'll be able to do to radically change our situation? If you have suggestions, that's what I'm here for...





/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
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"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


ThingThatGoesBump
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:46 pm
#95

Ok.


So I was out messing with the new Droids today.


I am 3/2/2/4 so it's limited how much experimentation I can get done, but anyways.....



Spot (My first Combat droid) is an Advanced Probot. He's got 330 combat rating.


126-132 damage.


.92 attack time


913 HAM


and 40% resists all over.



I had him up against a prenerfed Probot droid with more than 3K HAM and while Spot did loose the fight, the other droid was below 200 in HAM.



What I noticed was that the prenerf droid did less damage, fired less frequently and missed a lot more than Spot did.


Had I been able to gather some resources for a repair tool then.... But there are no Solid Petrochems on Naboo at the moment. At least not on Starsider. (There aren't any of the steel types needed to make BLL, Adv R3 or Protocol droids either hehe.)



Would he stand up against a pet? I dunno. I'll check that later. I doubt it, but I'll try it nonetheless. I dunno quite how lousy the droid is. Or if the "prenerf" Probots are crap or not. But those resists sure help a lot.



I'll take him out to fight my BE pet when I get back from work and post my findings here.



I am not satisfied with the combat droids that have been implemented, don't get me wrong. But I thought that it was a lot worse....



just wanted to share this with ya.





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Laaba
Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:50 pm
#96

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Look, I understand...you're 'down' on our situation. What would you like me to do about it, aside from what I'm doing now? I ask in all seriousness.


What do you expect that I'll be able to do to radically change our situation? If you have suggestions, that's what I'm here for


_________________________________________________________________________________________________________


If u are serious....


Then forward these 2 posts I made to the DEV's [ copies are below]


Tell the DEV's what we want to be a trade that means something in the game. IE take us out of the game completely and we want the game to suffer. As things stand now this is ture of most all other classes except ours. Come on u take the Arch out of the game and everythign he makes and the game falls apart. You take the medical profession out of the game and the game falls apart ... u take all armor or weapons out of the game and it falls apart... You take the DE out of the game and we loose some storage and mobility of crafting as u put it... the game goes on with a hot patch.


Just give us the "Balance" that they keep talking about.


We dont care about balance between a dorid and a ch pet that is like compairing Apples to Oranges. Droids are Steel and pets are flesh.


Thanks for your time and your dedication to our cause


/bow


Laaba






IMHO this is the way I see things with our profession... Bottom line we as DE's WANT BALANCE.... not the little "balance" stuff like droid vs be pet. What we want is this... You take the Ent out of this game and what happens? We all die of Battle Fatigue. Take the Medical Profession out of the game and what happens? Take the Arch WS AS out of the game of course 1 at a time and what happens? You take any one of the above trades out of the game one at a time and the entire game suffers. Now take the DE profession out of the game and what happens? The BH is in a bit of a fix and it might be hard to make crafting stations.... but a hot fix can take care of that. This is were we want BALANCE we want the game to suffer if our class was deleted, sort of like we are now.

There have been numerous good posts over the last 9 months here... One that sticks out in my mind is where droids are made with specific mods for each trade in the game. They would work similar to weapons where if u were a chef and had a combat droid it would not do u much good. IE take all the current profession and at Master level give them a good droid.

We as DE's are a good dedicated community over all.... we put up with more than any paying customer should.

Again IMHO the reson people are upset about this patch is it does NOTHING to help balance the scales.





Let me TELL you how it is .... I have mentioned that I have been a Master DE for going on 8 months and am really pretty well off in this game. I offered to 2 guilds [which combined have 250 to 300 members] to make FREE DROIDS for every member of both guilds to help them out. Guild 1 says NO Thanks they are useless.... Guild 2 is still testing the NEW droids of this Publish 7 to see if they even think it is worth my time to make them.

So I sit with 4 factories and the parts in them to make over 300 droids of various types [le repair, probot and r3 units]... Making up these parts did not even really dent my supplies.... My credits in the game are over 8 digits... So CREDITS mean nothing to me now .... My houses are paid over 6 months in advance so I don't have to check them... NO I did not make my money selling droids... I made it selling resourses that I harvested, slicing and selling IMP FP.

And NO I have not even tried to sell a new droid from this publish I think I would be ripping the customers off if I did.

It u have the slighest doubt that I am telling u the truth just send me a tell in game and I will show u all the parts.


The reality of this patch is the "droid invasion" is so bad I cannot even give the droids away for FREE.


Laaba - Wookiee

Master Smuggler - Master Explorer - Master DE - Corbantis


PS. NO I AM NOT willing to give these droids away to people I don't know... And don't even suggest that I have dupped my money or used a exploit to get it. It is very easy to run IMP missions and make a 1/2 mill a day in selling FP.





The BEST 3 pet names I have ever seen are.... DearSOE PleezFix DaBugz
jemelby
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:34 am
#97






R0ZM4N wrote:





Reaperss wrote:





jemelby wrote:

Say No to Personal Combat Droids, and Any Profession Designed to Employ them.


I challenge anyone to come up with a licencedmovie or book precedent for personal combat droids (other video games and comics withstanding)







Oo! Oo! I know this, I know this. Winter the 'nanny' droid of the Organa-Solo kids, she was a personal combat droid, actually she was like a Major, Major combat droid and kicked some serious 455 when the babes were threatened.


Yey! do I get a prize?






Winter was a biological




J'Vee
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RearAd
Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:22 am
#98

JUST PLESE FIX THE 10 ITEM STORAGE MODULE NOT WORKING IN THE SURGICAL DROID, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.


Oh yeah, this publish sucks.





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Pooka
Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:41 am
#99





I challenge anyone to come up with a licencedmovie or book precedent for personal combat droids (other video games and comics withstanding)







Don't get me started on "continuity breakage" again.


Star Wars Galaxies has so many of these "breakages" so whining about combatable R-model astromechs makes my stomach hurt.



The continuity card can not be played as an ace of spades anymore, heck it's not even worth a two of clubs these days.






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HawkCormyr
Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:06 am
#100

Droid invasion...


Here is my point of viewafter a couple of days playing with it.


As i was thinking this droid invasion patch is far from beeing realy focused on droids and even more far from beeing an invasion. This patch has not bring any real purpose to DE ,we still have no real place in the game. I am still the only one in my PA who uses droid as a combat help or as crafting station and i am still only selling med droids ( food chem station/ medic 6 / item6 ) or BH droids. i still use only a minor portion of the chassis i can make ( R2 ,R3, surgical ... others are rare


But this patch is also far from what i feared , the droid armor rating is sure a pain in the a... well .. in the foot ... , buti cannot truly says that it has break down my use of droids as a combat aid i use them in a slightly different manner. heal and wound stimpack are a great new features even if there are slightly too complex, in my opinion, but this is not a showstopper.


Droids are more complex to build that rise their price but for the moment my customer do not argue the price as droids are way cheaper than anything else


Some bug fixes , some new bug as usal...


So in the end i can say that for me this patch is positive, not a droids invasionsfar from it , but at last there is more good than bad in that one. but this is not suffiecient for me to brighten the future of DE ,patch 8 will be decisive for the future of DE aswe have been ignored or slap in the face so many time,but i fear that this is not the point of view of SOE team....





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Kevie
Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:08 am
#101


david665, i totally agree

the option to have an IG droid would make me want to buy one instantly *crosses finger*

the wallpaper was misleading (sadly, i wanted a battle droid so bad)

but other than the fact there were no new droids (and armour taken away /cry), the droids aren't all that bad i justWISH they had armour still

comparing these new combat droidsto my current nonch pets 4k/3.5k/2k ham withhave half the dmg, 4 times as slow attacking and only 9 kinetic/blast resist.... meaning vulnerable to everything else

i would rather use my combat droid- ranged ALWAYS works (i know this will be fixed later, but even then, not all pets have ranged) and the resists are MUCH higher, much more dmg, much faster attack speed


i just really wish they didn't cost so much (i mean in resources, not to consumers) and that coupled with the fact there were no new droids is really quite sad


i would so spend 36k (standard price for an R3 droid on my server) for a battle droid/droideka/IG droid even if it had no battle functionality because it would just be a really cool thing to have- i like having a droid follow me around instead of a pet


as for cert for using droids above cl10 (even though, as someone has already posted, my droids are showing up cl13) being put into say ranged support or master brawler, then any combat profession could use them, this would obviously have its implications comparing creature handlers who spend the points to master a profession to use such pets

but i don't think a whole new profession should be implimented, but rather a current, existing one- i know, i may be going out on a limb here


squad leader..... what's a leader without his squad?

having some lower lvl (say lvl 20 at ranged support IV) and the higher ones in sl would fix two birds with one stone so-to-speak- squad leaders are useless as they have to spend a ton of sp to get a profession they need to rely on others to master...... being able to call and group with multiple droids, higher- the ability to use higher-level droids would create a market for such higher-lvl droids and make squad leader a practical profession to have (almost every sl i know is just holo-grinding it so they can drop it)


this, however, still doesn't fix the melee fighter- and honestly, my only solution would be to have the same certification at ranged IV to be added in somewhere in brawler


*edit*

i was reading on the rifleman forum about the idea of a droid that could help with cover.......

maybe a different approach for combat droids is not all them actually being combat capable per se, but help- as in, helping a cover mod

maybe droids that help with accuracy, defense (as in deflector shields/armour) is a good way of going about implimenting a practicle way of using droids with combat professions


sorry about the long post lol

Message Edited by Kevie on 03-21-2004 11:49 AM




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zaphod182
Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:32 pm
#102

no damn crafting mods for my R3s... FIX IT NOW PLZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Thank you..


Jenden
Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:21 pm
#103

R3's can have crafting mods just like always, you just have to put them in combat socket clusters instead of regular socket clusters. No droids lost any functionality, and the probots even gained some.



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Shian_Tavkin
Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:28 pm
#104






Jenden wrote:
R3's can have crafting mods just like always, you just have to put them in combat socket clusters instead of regular socket clusters. No droids lost any functionality, and the probots even gained some.






Probots gaining functionality is a very very subjective judgement Jenden.


They gained some and they lost a lot, on balance I say they lost more than they gained, but you already know I think that don't you.


Probot didlose functionality, especially (but not only) if you define functionality as usefullness. It is now less usefull in general, but I will concede it is differently useful as well. There is no balance in favour though, quite the reverse.




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