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Thread: Top 5ish Droid Engineer Issues

Droidmaster14321
Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:03 pm
#79

Hello my name is J'aan Kast i am finding it hard getting droid engnieer xp. Well i was reading your input and i think your idea of having more droids to craft such as the cool Droidiaka is really cool so i hope it is put in the next publish.



J'aan Kast-----Ockackara
hMedic--Tailor@
NEI
I was medic before it was cool
Droidmaster14321
Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:05 pm
#80

my name is J'aan Kast i am in the Eclipse galaxy i am finding it hard to get xp can u tell me how much xp the r2 unit gives? Also i would like say that your idea of adding new droids to the profesion is awesome.



J'aan Kast-----Ockackara
hMedic--Tailor@
NEI
I was medic before it was cool
Holgerjr
Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:52 am
#81

In order to make the DE profession useful it needs to become a quasi essential part of the game. To this end here are my suggestions:


1) Luke Skywalker bought droids because the old one broke could not be fixed and wore out. Not because of combat, but because of time. Non combat droids should be like vehicles, in that each time you take them out they degrade, batteries can slow the degradation, but not stop it, and eventually they die. Then you need to go back and buy another one.


2) Droids need to serve more essential/useful functions. These could include:

a) Resource mine maintnenance, as in droids can be loaded with credits and power and go keep your miners filled.

b) Resource Locators, they could be assigned to go across planets and report a general idea of whats there. As in lok as dolovite iron, phrik aluminum, duralloy steel, etc....

c) Slicing of boxes and doors, R2D2 did this way more often then Solo. Allow the droid to open boxes and doors.

d) Base shutdowns. Again droids could be equiped to participate in base shutdowns.

e) Training. Luke learned the light saber from a droid. Have training droids so we dont have so many kook campers.

f) Gambling Droids. Hey let me open a casino with slot machine droids!!!!!

g) Item Repair Droids. Let them fix my guns armor and stuff.

h) Vehicle repair, How many times has R2 fixed a vehicle? A lot.


3) Combat. Ok this is star wars, One of the most feared BH in the galaxy is a droid. If we need to have a Droid Commander make it. But give the game more fearsome droids. This is not He-Man I am so tired of seeing battle cat running all over the planet.


Anywho, this is my 2 credits worth, Sure this has all been said before. But the most important issue is to have droids decay, with no ability to fully repair.


Cheers




Toasted.
I like my piks toasted, with a little butter.
eTboy
Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:48 am
#82

DRASHK and THREALTK, First let me say I love u guys for what u are trying to do for the DE profession, Thank you


I have one HUGE QUESTION (the first one) and please yell at me if this question has been answered or if Im totally wrong.


1. Is Droid Inventory suppsed to be capped at 10?


2. Why isnt it one of our number one issues if it isnt suppsed to be like that?


I know for a fact that if I could make 72+ inventory in an advanced R3 like im suppsed to be able to, or I am assumingI am,I would sell more droids than I have throughout the whole game so far. Im really glad that DE is finally getting some attention, BUT WHY ARE THEY NOT FIXING WHAT IS BROKEN FIRST. THAT IS WHAT WE ALL HAVE WANTED FROM THE BEGINING DONT THEY KNOW THAT YET? Combat droids suck, I dont really care though, Im glad they are coming out with some new profession specific droids and mods too, thats great BUT PLEASE, CAN WE FIX THE INVENOTRY ALLREADY?


3. What is the best combat droid anyone has made so far? I didnt try super hard and made a 100-150 damage and 1500 ham adv R3 bfr i dropped DE in disgust. I am now grinding holos, waiting for them to fix DE. Can everyone tell me what the best combat droid they made topped out at? Cuz as far as I can tell they are no lvl 10 pet.
slaier0702
Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:54 am
#83

HolgerJr wrote:

1) Luke Skywalker bought droids because the old one broke could not be fixed and wore out. Not because of combat, but because of time. Non combat droids should be like vehicles, in that each time you take them out they degrade, batteries can slow the degradation, but not stop it, and eventually they die. Then you need to go back and buy another one.


Reminder:

In Episode 1 R2D2 was laready in existence and C3PO was under construction, approximately 20 - 25 years prior to Owen's purchase. If you were to follow the books also they are still tooling around the galaxy with Luke's and Han's kids. So maybe they do degrade, but if they are maintained they should last longer then a DE in this game!
leeds
Fri Mar 26, 2004 11:18 am
#84



ellion wrote:
Ok folks, there've been a lot of interesting suggestions for new design options and modules. But there's also been a lot of crap. I have to admit that I'm rather new to SWG, but I decided to become DE and of course I'm interested in getting more diverse droids.
But please retain some common sense! I agree with surveying, hopper collecting and demolition/building modules and the likes.
But a targeting module for marksmen? What's so droidy about that one? That should at best be a tool (that might be craftable by DEs) but it certainly isn't sensible as a droid module.
Keep in mind what a droid is all about: independently doing more or less boring and repetitive tasks or to assist in difficult tasks like surgery.

I do agree to combat capable droids but why one should build droids that enhance combat skills of the user is incomprehensible to me. It sounds like total over-kill and powergaming/skillmaxing to me.

Oh and by the way: someone mentioned modules to enable a dancer/musician to perform outside the cantina. Well, they can perform but you don't get benefits - and a module that allows you to heal outside would seriously unbalance the game. So don't expect it to be done any time.

Yours Ellion
Ca'asis Mosuni, Novice DE on Infinity




Yep you're so new you shouldn't be posting yet on the boards... There are already modules that allow you to heal anyplace you want, for instance. Go play the game for a bit more then come back...........
Pallida
Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:55 pm
#85






DarthMortus wrote:





Holgerjr wrote:

In order to make the DE profession useful it needs to become a quasi essential part of the game. To this end here are my suggestions:


1) Luke Skywalker bought droids because the old one broke could not be fixed and wore out. Not because of combat, but because of time. Non combat droids should be like vehicles, in that each time you take them out they degrade, batteries can slow the degradation, but not stop it, and eventually they die. Then you need to go back and buy another one.


2) Droids need to serve more essential/useful functions. These could include:

a) Resource mine maintnenance, as in droids can be loaded with credits and power and go keep your miners filled.

b) Resource Locators, they could be assigned to go across planets and report a general idea of whats there. As in lok as dolovite iron, phrik aluminum, duralloy steel, etc....

c) Slicing of boxes and doors, R2D2 did this way more often then Solo. Allow the droid to open boxes and doors.

d) Base shutdowns. Again droids could be equiped to participate in base shutdowns.

e) Training. Luke learned the light saber from a droid. Have training droids so we dont have so many kook campers.

f) Gambling Droids. Hey let me open a casino with slot machine droids!!!!!

g) Item Repair Droids. Let them fix my guns armor and stuff.

h) Vehicle repair, How many times has R2 fixed a vehicle? A lot.


3) Combat. Ok this is star wars, One of the most feared BH in the galaxy is a droid. If we need to have a Droid Commander make it. But give the game more fearsome droids. This is not He-Man I am so tired of seeing battle cat running all over the planet.


Anywho, this is my 2 credits worth, Sure this has all been said before. But the most important issue is to have droids decay, with no ability to fully repair.


Cheers








Except for your first point, I couldn't agree more. However, the devs have heard these same ideas, other ideas, and variations of these and other ideas, ALL of which are MUCH BETTER then any ideas they could ever dream of having on their own. They are just not smart enough to implement them.


If George Lucas (in his youth when he made "A New Hope") got wind of this b.s., he'd fire every one of these bozos.






Hmm... I would really like to know where your "repeat customers" will come from...


I can see it now... "Where are all of my droid customers... I built the best I could... sold them to everyone that I met... I never have any complaints of failure, because I KNOW that my droids will NEVER wear out and need replacement... Where in Hell IS everyone?"


Note... Everything in real life deteriorates... including us... unless you happen to be a God.


ssssssssssssSSS(:-<


Message Edited by Pallida on 03-26-2004 03:01 PM



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DarthMortus
Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:23 pm
#86






Pallida wrote:






DarthMortus wrote:





Holgerjr wrote:

In order to make the DE profession useful it needs to become a quasi essential part of the game. To this end here are my suggestions:


1) Luke Skywalker bought droids because the old one broke could not be fixed and wore out. Not because of combat, but because of time. Non combat droids should be like vehicles, in that each time you take them out they degrade, batteries can slow the degradation, but not stop it, and eventually they die. Then you need to go back and buy another one.


2) Droids need to serve more essential/useful functions. These could include:

a) Resource mine maintnenance, as in droids can be loaded with credits and power and go keep your miners filled.

b) Resource Locators, they could be assigned to go across planets and report a general idea of whats there. As in lok as dolovite iron, phrik aluminum, duralloy steel, etc....

c) Slicing of boxes and doors, R2D2 did this way more often then Solo. Allow the droid to open boxes and doors.

d) Base shutdowns. Again droids could be equiped to participate in base shutdowns.

e) Training. Luke learned the light saber from a droid. Have training droids so we dont have so many kook campers.

f) Gambling Droids. Hey let me open a casino with slot machine droids!!!!!

g) Item Repair Droids. Let them fix my guns armor and stuff.

h) Vehicle repair, How many times has R2 fixed a vehicle? A lot.


3) Combat. Ok this is star wars, One of the most feared BH in the galaxy is a droid. If we need to have a Droid Commander make it. But give the game more fearsome droids. This is not He-Man I am so tired of seeing battle cat running all over the planet.


Anywho, this is my 2 credits worth, Sure this has all been said before. But the most important issue is to have droids decay, with no ability to fully repair.


Cheers








Except for your first point, I couldn't agree more. However, the devs have heard these same ideas, other ideas, and variations of these and other ideas, ALL of which are MUCH BETTER then any ideas they could ever dream of having on their own. They are just not smart enough to implement them.


If George Lucas (in his youth when he made "A New Hope") got wind of this b.s., he'd fire every one of these bozos.






Hmm... I would really like to know where your "repeat customers" will come from...


I can see it now... "Where are all of my droid customers... I built the best I could... sold them to everyone that I met... I never have any complaints of failure, because I KNOW that my droids will NEVER wear out and need replacement... Where in Hell IS everyone?"


Note... Everything in real life deteriorates... including us... unless you happen to be a God.


ssssssssssssSSS(:-<



Message Edited by Pallida on 03-26-2004 03:01 PM




I didn't say droids shouldn't "wear out". I just meant that I didn't agree with the approach described in that first point. For that matter, I don't like the way vehicles wear out either. It's not well thought out. Currently, the way vehicles wear out is a compromise, and feels like a slapped-togethergame contrivance.


So, the point I'm making is that I do agree with the spirt of the point, just not the letter. The point of mymessage wasn't to debate that issue...it was to draw attention to the lack of talent and/or effort of the development team to implement those kinds of things. Ironically, your response made me think about the details of item #1 above, which intern shows another example of the poor excuse for a development team SWG currently has -- the way vehciles wereimplemented illustrates a clear lack ofimagination or skill bythese half-baked "developers". Pathetic, really, when you put this in context with the overall picture: Vehciles (landspeeders, starships, etc...), Droids, and Jedi are what make up a "Star Wars Experience", yet these things are the most disappointing things in Star Wars Galaxies. Whata farse.


Neroir
Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:35 am
#87



eTboy wrote:
1. Is Droid Inventory suppsed to be capped at 10



Yes, it is.
Sorry man

Ellesa - Master Droid Engineer - Ahazi
ellion
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:32 am
#88


leeds wrote:


ellion wrote:
[Snip]

Oh and by the way: someone mentioned modules to enable a dancer/musician to perform outside the cantina. Well, they can perform but you don't get benefits - and a module that allows you to heal outside would seriously unbalance the game. So don't expect it to be done any time.

Yours Ellion
Ca'asis Mosuni, Novice DE on Infinity





Yep you're so new you shouldn't be posting yet on the boards... There are already modules that allow you to heal anyplace you want, for instance. Go play the game for a bit more then come back...........




Sorry if I wasn't exact enough. Of course, I know of medical modules that allow you to heal anywhere (except inside cantinas if I remember correctly). I was just referring to modules that allow you to heal mind wounds/battle fatigue as well. _I_ think such a module could have a serious impact.

Less arrogance and more considerate reading might be useful...

Greetings Ellion
TheRealTK421
Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:22 pm
#89

Since a new Top 5 will be here soon, I'm gonna pull this off the sticky list (Thanks, Drashk).


/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


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