Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: Fostering better DE communication or Why this DE forum needs a memory wipe...

Alacrity
Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:23 am
#66

Cafa: There's more than one way to express our displeasure at your ranting posts. Note the disappearance of your previous thread on the subject...



Amoon Darkflier, Elder Artisan, Elder Droid Engineer, Elder Merchant

"I find your lack of pants disturbing."
GrafvonSoden
Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:39 am
#67

Well TheRealTK421 ;


I'm so glad you have someone on the inside to give you such a change in spirit. Most of us don't. So dont come here with your "Holier than Thou" attitude. You were one of the "Major" **edit** disturbers in the first place. People need to see "ACTION" from the red names and not just talk. Your words hold even less weight than theirs. You sound like a converted smoker.


TheRealTK421
Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:55 am
#68






GrafvonSoden wrote:

I'm so glad you have someone on the inside to give you such a change in spirit.


I don't have some secret person that I talk to or anything. I just send a PM to some Devs. They answered. That's all. You could just as easily have done the SAME thing.


Most of us don't.


We all do. Maybe you weren't aware of that...

You can PM Devs on the forum and, if they are so inclined, they will respond. That's all that happened here.



So dont come here with your "Holier than Thou" attitude.


That isn't the attitude that I bring here. I'm no better than ANY other DE in the game and/or the forum.


You were one of the "Major" **edit** disturbers in the first place.


Correct...and, I could be again, if so inclined. Right now, I find the negativity disheartening and it honestly makes me not want to hang much in the forums. I'd prefer to start talking about, and fleshing out, cool droid ideas and changes.

And...just by way of example....did any of my 'disturbances' in the past actually bear any fruit (other than perhaps the DH poll, but that was hardly a rant of any kind)?



People need to see "ACTION" from the red names and not just talk. Your words hold even less weight than theirs. You sound like a converted smoker.


Uhhhh....."converted smoker"? I have no idea what you're talking about, man.

I am not in any way concerned about what kind of weight my words carry. In my view, every single DE that posts here has an opinion or viewpoint that carries equal weight....even you.

If you think me daft, that's okay. I'd probably see it the same way were the shoe on the other foot. I just know that the negativity on the DE board makes me want to play less....not more. I'm just hoping to see that change, that's all.





/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


Pluto9Moon
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:30 am
#69

DE's there is none more happy for you than I. I really only stumbled acrossed these boards when i heard about the DH profession. Something I was genuinely interested in (moot point and off topic). Unfortunately my mistake was mentioning I am a CH. This led to a systematic, methodical and unrelenting series of attacks. I hope every including myself can get past this because I believe there are some good minds here, minds that could be put to better use than flaming the likes of me.



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Not against broad changes, just profession specific ones (read as CH) that go against what we've been told in the past.
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TheRealTK421
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:44 am
#70






Pluto9Moon wrote:

DE's there is none more happy for you than I. I really only stumbled acrossed these boards when i heard about the DH profession. Something I was genuinely interested in (moot point and off topic). Unfortunately my mistake was mentioning I am a CH. This led to a systematic, methodical and unrelenting series of attacks. I hope every including myself can get past this because I believe there are some good minds here, minds that could be put to better use than flaming the likes of me.




Heya..thanks for the comments.

I think most DEs like anyone that has their hearts in the right place....that is what seems to count the most. I think CHs got a pretty horrid rap but that's kind of water under the bridge now (after several rounds of heavy nerfage).


/bow

Respectfully,






TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"
SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


Plzurpilot
Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:09 am
#71






Pluto9Moon wrote:
DE's there is none more happy for you than I. I really only stumbled acrossed these boards when i heard about the DH profession. Something I was genuinely interested in (moot point and off topic). Unfortunately my mistake was mentioning I am a CH. This led to a systematic, methodical and unrelenting series of attacks. I hope every including myself can get past this because I believe there are some good minds here, minds that could be put to better use than flaming the likes of me.






The reason why many old timer DE's have a general detestment towards CH's is because of the Probot nerf. Probots were a hot item shortly after release. Many DE's profited from them. What does this have to do with CH's? After the nerf, an alternative to the Pre-nerf Probot was discoverd. This being the Cowardly Gurrek.


The gurrek rivaled the pre nerf probot in many aspects and much better stats than the current probot. What angered many DE's was that it took months for the devs to change things. Hope this helps you understand things.




Nostradamus Smyth, Former Mayor: Vodo-Siosk Dantooine
Master Droid Engineer | Master Politician | Master Artisan | Master Architect


Akkori
Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:18 am
#72

I keep thinking about the request to be positive, and I just dont have the energy. I dont have the energy to regurgitate hundreds of posts about new module idea's, profession enhancements, game features, etc.... Not my posts, but the whole communities. All of you know we spent MONTHS doing this, and so far we have not borne fruit.


SO instead of re-typing the hundreds of posts we've ALREADY made, lets just dredge up the old threads and copy/paste them into new threads. The information the Devs want is ALREADY THERE if they would just look for it. Lets just transfer the positive old (and STILL valid) posts to new threads.



Odano Akkori
First Mayor of Tempest
Jaxian Bay
Elder DE, Rifleman, Swordsman

Jedi will never be a starting profession...Looted items and quest items will never be better then crafted items, this is not a loot based game...CH will return shortly...CH and BE will not be back in game...Rangers are getting their revamp next!...The stealth system will not be changing in the spy expertise...Need any more examples of things the devs said that did not hold true?
Puck_Starfire
Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:23 am
#73



Ahh I am definately against the one-star treatment, but I too jumped in with everyone on that one.


You don't just stay silent through all this and then chime in and offer your two cents as a direct attack against one of the community leaders.I don't see TK as trying to be a "converted" anything. I see him as being mature enough to say "I lay down my arms, now you lay down yours". And that earns my respect. A man tries to put the fire out before it gets too hot. A boy giggles and adds fuel to the blaze.



Message Edited by Puck_Starfire on 02-17-2004 01:25 PM

Message Edited by Puck_Starfire on 02-17-2004 01:32 PM

GrafvonSoden
Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:36 am
#74

one stars have never bothered me, so one star youself to heaven. Hope you enjoy it. I was smart enough to set my defalts at the beginning. And I couldn't really care less what your opinion of me is.


I guess "Reformed smoker" would have been the better choice of words. Although I don't smoke , Ive seen the "Pack-a-Day" smoker "Kick" the habit and then start preaching on how everyone else should quit.


For me it's rather moot anyway, as I'm terminating my accounts.


Puck_Starfire
Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:04 pm
#75

/yawn
Kilarny
Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:08 pm
#76

/wave
Nailliar
Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:38 pm
#77

I'd overlook the "in-game" descripiton of Master Droid Engineer "makes deadly droids" IF I get 2 (out at the same time) Roger Rogers to troll around with. I don't care if there only lvl 10, 2 out at once and following me around saying Roger Roger all the time. I want to Hear It!



Rialia Darkstar
"You have failed me for the last time, SOE"
MurienAquarius
Tue Feb 17, 2004 2:19 pm
#78

I just sent a message to JustG, asking what sort of boundaries we can expect in our requests for DE changes, and what to expect. It looks like TH is putting together a post. This is the reply I got from JustG, which is super cool. I did not expect to get a reply within like 5 minutes, but I did. See??? There is reason to stay positive.

Re: Droid development question (non-aggro!)

Thx MA... TH is putting together his first post for later today... and it will be followed by at least two more, on our development efforts with regards to your profession.

stay tuned...

- g




Murien Aquarius
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