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Thread: Surprise! DE love...you knew I had to get some!!
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AudioOrgana
Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:58 pm
#40
TheRealTK421 wrote:
But to a big-time industrialist type like you, AO, that shouldn't matter......right?
No, especially since I don't sell the darn things in the first place. I leave that up to newer DE's. And those newer DE's are not going to be helped by this increase - if anything, I believe it will reduce their volume. More uses means less units sold, right?
I mean, it's not as if you will be hurt or helped at all, one way or another. As you've seen in this thread, there are folks (DE and maybe non-DE alike) that do/did want this change.
I'm sure there are. Wasn't my point. My point is, I don't see the "love", I see a bit of attention given to a topic that certainly isn't one of our top issues. Get them to name talking droids after a more than a year of being broken - then you can call it "love". I see this as a 75% reduction in the sales of droid customization kits. I do not believe there are tons of people just waiting to buy them because 50 uses wasn't enough. Those that care about droid color already bought the kits, increasing the yield of them in this case isn't going to produce a new customer base.
So....it happened.
What number would you have picked, had you been asked?
I would have left it at 50. I think it's more than adequate. It's a nice balance between functionality and value. Thanks for asking.
/bow
Respectfully,
AO
TheRealTK421
Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:28 pm
#41
/bow
AudioOrgana wrote:
TheRealTK421 wrote:
But to a big-time industrialist type like you, AO, that shouldn't matter......right?
No, especially since I don't sell the darn things in the first place. I leave that up to newer DE's. And those newer DE's are not going to be helped by this increase - if anything, I believe it will reduce their volume. More uses means less units sold, right?
Not if there is some number of potential DE owners that don't use droid due (in part) to the 'yuckiness' of the paint situation. That argument against owning a droid has now been removed.
And..I'm not speaking anecdotally here. I have personally experienced some number of sales lost specifically due to the fact that a person couldn't have a droid that stayed painted for awhile.
I mean, it's not as if you will be hurt or helped at all, one way or another. As you've seen in this thread, there are folks (DE and maybe non-DE alike) that do/did want this change.
Those that care about droid color already bought the kits, increasing the yield of them in this case isn't going to produce a new customer base.
And I tend to think you made a pretty large assumption there..."those that care about droid color already bought the kits". Some people just decided not to buy either the paint or the droid. Now they have reason to purchase without this being an issue.
What number would you have picked, had you been asked?
I would have left it at 50. I think it's more than adequate. It's a nice balance between functionality and value. Thanks for asking.
If it looks like this doesn't work out, we can always go back.
Incidentally, when they asked me...I told them I thought 100 would be adequate. I can only suppose that droid paint, vehicle paint and (perhaps) ship paint are all tied to the same system and they wanted a new baseline. /shrug
Respectfully,
AudioOrgana
Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:05 pm
#42
TK, if someone ever didn't buy a droid they wanted or needed because of color, they are just silly. It may be true, but it is also truethere people who don't wash behind their ears because they can't see back there. The world amazes me every day. But if someone didn't buy a droid for that reason, they obviously didn't need it very much which is an entirely different issue.
I simply said above I do not see this as "love", nor do I think it's going to help the situation any for lower-level DE's who make money from these kits by reducing the amount they sell by 75%. Even if those silly people suddenly buy droids because of this (I'm giving you the extreme benefit of the doubt), there is no way the customer base is going to expand four-fold. Do the math, TK. Do you think that four times as many people are suddenly going to buy these? And that's just to make up for the lost sales, not an increase at all.
You have your opinion, I have mine - but we all know what side your bread is buttered on, so forgive me if I don't see you as awfully objective. You lost that trait long, long ago.
AO
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Message Edited by AudioOrgana on 09-06-2004 10:10 PM
Gavvot
Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:36 am
#43
Hum,
Do I like this change? Sort of.
What number would I pick up? 0. The Idea of color fading itself is stupid, not fun, not helping business. Increase the number will only turn something stupid to something we can live with, but still stupid.
Is this love? hum, no.
Meaningfull stats on droids, skills requirement, no color fading at all, AR1 on combat droid, Naming humanoid droids, Item storage in surgical, fixing the maintenance module that was introduced in APRIL and never worked, 75% damage reduction in PvP,....
That would be love.
It's like you complain to your house owner that the pipes have big holes, the electric system doesn't works, there are rats in the basement, a part of the roof is missing and the only answer you have is :
We'll change the color of the walls, doesn't that show how we love you? Should be enough for this year...
Do I like this change? Sort of.
What number would I pick up? 0. The Idea of color fading itself is stupid, not fun, not helping business. Increase the number will only turn something stupid to something we can live with, but still stupid.
Is this love? hum, no.
Meaningfull stats on droids, skills requirement, no color fading at all, AR1 on combat droid, Naming humanoid droids, Item storage in surgical, fixing the maintenance module that was introduced in APRIL and never worked, 75% damage reduction in PvP,....
That would be love.
It's like you complain to your house owner that the pipes have big holes, the electric system doesn't works, there are rats in the basement, a part of the roof is missing and the only answer you have is :
We'll change the color of the walls, doesn't that show how we love you? Should be enough for this year...
Message Edited by Gavvot on 09-07-2004 10:36 AM
Straker_Atrella
Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:00 am
#44
Well I'm back again, and still I don't know how I feel. I honestly find these a pain to keep in stock, they do move fairly fast, yet I don't turn much profit on them, so this wont hurt or help me really. I carry them because people will want them.
My main problem with the change is it just "feels" like the devs are in a time lag. Yes people USED to complain a lot about droids and vehicles, then it was upped to 50. Yet when it was upped to 50, it was done fairly quietly and few people knew. NOW whenever i hear anybody complain about their item fading, I tell them the kits last 50 calls now. They say "wow I didn't know that, cool," then move on.
Vehicles get pulled far more often then droid (usually,) so I can see an increase there. I just really still think the big problem is people not knowing they last 50 calls.
Zorkk
Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:20 am
#45
^^^^
What the last 3 people said I agree with most. while this is just a small change, in the end i'm against it. 50 calls is large enough.. i figure being a DE i pull my droids more than anyone else on the server, and my droids paint jobs currently last 2-3 day's.... for someone who doesn't pull theirs as much, it could easly last up to a week currently. Nothing wrong with that time frame IMHO.
Since i made a factory run of "Droid Paint Kits" i've been selling quite a few more....
Z
Ke_la
Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:22 am
#46
can we get the crafted Custom "timer" set to 200 calls too? I would love that cause each one of my droid Types has a differant color scheme to match what they do like Brown and Green for Taylor or Black and Red for Attack Droids and Back and Blue for Tanks.
Malitevv
Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:48 am
#47
Gavvot wrote:
Hum,
Do I like this change? Sort of.
What number would I pick up? 0. The Idea of color fading itself is stupid, not fun, not helping business. Increase the number will only turn something stupid to something we can live with, but still stupid.
Well, I do have to admit that this is probably the real reason I like this change. I also think the idea that the colors fade on droids and vehicles is plain stupid. Any increase in the decay time is an improvement, but in truth, I would prefer that the color didn't decay at all.
Ackdel
Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:40 pm
#48
I guess this is ok. I don't really consider it DE Love of course....since DE's can make their own custom kits at will. Pretty much everyone-except-DE-love.
I'd rather see anything on our issues list fixed.
ArdenStarmariner
Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:31 am
#49
TheRealTK421 wrote:
ArdenStarmariner wrote:
It's the hair. Wookie fur is resistent to Jedi mind tricks. Also, with just one can of hair spray, it becomes an effective armor. You'll have to shave the wookie before you can extract any information out of him.
....and we both know that ain't happenin'.
/bow
Respectfully,
Loads his Super Soaker with Neat Hair Remover.
JavelinCatcher
Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:31 pm
#50
TheRealTK421 wrote:
Heya, all...
A quick head's up.
Droid Customization (Paint) kits will be getting increased so that they last for 200 calls.
Yes, I said 200.
There is NO ETA on this (so please, don't ask for one). It may be tomorrow, it may be 6 months from now. I do not know.
/bow
Respectfully,
Something I didn't notice until I made a couple droids this week on TestCenter....it's not *just* the kits that got the raise to 200....the initial paint on the call of the droid also lasts 200 as well.
[Edit: P.S. ...after talking with Drashk tonight, we realized this really did *just occur* in the last day or so.]
Message Edited by JavelinCatcher on 09-11-2004 03:43 AM
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