Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: CH's are at it again

JellybeanWanderhome
Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:37 pm
#27






Ackis wrote:


In their forums, they're complaining about the limited number of pets they have and are DEMANDING that more be put in. *sigh*


Edit: Removed "nerf" comment, as people (ie: CHs and candy wookiees )were taking it too literally.

Message Edited by Ackis on 02-10-2004 03:34 PM





LOL!


Ok, new plan, DEs, CH, Pikeman, everyone all head out to San Deigo. We'll pile onto the doors of SOE so the devs can't get out and out until they fix ALL of us.
Virtanis
Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:45 pm
#28






JellybeanWanderhome wrote:


Ok, new plan, DEs, CH, Pikeman, everyone all head out to San Deigo. We'll pile onto the doors of SOE so the devs can't get out and out until they fix ALL of us.





I work about 2 minutes from SOE in San Diego.... you tell me when, and I'll be there.





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CapnSteve
Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:47 pm
#29

/tellpet works most of the time, but not always. As for putting creatures in, they're asking for the creatures that were made extinct for a reason to but put back in, I think most of the pets mentioned have medium armor, which is why they were taken out. Also, he says "(some never had babies but definately should)". If that's not asking for more stuff, I don't know what is.



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duncje
Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:50 pm
#30






JellybeanWanderhome wrote:

Like I said, droids should be number 1.


However, CH are asking for:

1) the babies that are supose to spawn to actualy spawn.

2) /tellpet to work so they don't spam others.


Its not asking for more. CH since launch have never had more, only less.





Who are the CH's to decide which babies should spawn? This is rediculous, the CH's have had dev attention since launch, and now areDEMANDINGbecause there are rare babies that don't spawn anymore? The fact thata Dev responded to a troll like that is pathetic.


And as far as CH never getting anything added? What about mounts? I know quite a few CH that mad tons of credits selling mounts to people....





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DartrellThido
Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:55 pm
#31

Ultimately, this isn't about whether CH are spoiled brats or not (though I tend to think that, as a group,they are).


The sad thing about this whole game, and probably most MMORPGs, is that we're paying to play something that wouldn't pass for a beta in any other genre of gaming. The whole approach to development is wrong, wrong, wrong.


First, we're investing something of ourselves in these characters. Yes, it's just a game, but that doesn't mean we can't ask for a satisfying experience. By the time we realize we've painted ourselves into a corner, playing a half-assed project, or a broken character type within that game, it's too late and very difficult to just cut your losses. You've paid money and put in the time. You have a reasonable expectation that things should work as advertised--and if they're not going to work, they really shouldn't advertise (ie: the infamous January quote). Anything else is a recipe for abusing your customers.


A second effect we see, due to theobvious downsizing of development resources after launch, is all this in-fighting over the scarce developer attention that remains. Not only should there be no question of where things stand, because the game should have been finished and balanced before it was released, any remaining progression in the game shouldn't be a zero-sum game where, as in this thread, DEs complain about CH complaints because they know that it's always a question of one or the other getting the attention they deserve, never both.


I'm coming to the conclusion that I'm not just sick of being a Droid Engineer, not justfrustrated atGalaxies and this Dev team, but completely disgusted with the whole genre of MMORPGs. I think I'll just go back to stand-alone games. At least you know it'll only take a month or so for the remaining significant bugs to be patched.


But returning to the subject of bashing the CEs:


This is the one area where SWG has hit the nail perfectly on the head, and I applaud them. The only significant example of a Creature Handler in the movies was the Rancor tamer in Jabba's basement. He seemed like a tough guy at first, but the moment things didn't go his way, he showed himself to be a blubbering crybaby.


In this, SWG has modelled the perfect player/profession match.







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CapnSteve
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:02 pm
#32

"we're paying to play something that wouldn't pass for a beta in any other genre of gaming"


I had a similar thought last night. If this was a single player game, it would undoubtedly be one of the worst ever made. Oh, well, I like your rancor trainer comparison.




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"Next thing you know it's going to require a Droid Brain in order to make an Electronics GP Module. Sheesh." --Kollos
Puck_Starfire
Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:01 pm
#33

Funny thing is, I've heard mentioned over and over that the DE's have something against the CH's. Ummm, every forum I visit it seems EVERYONE has something against the CH's. Where there's smoke there's fire. And where there's fire, you shall find the truth.


Yes, the devs decide who to pay attention to. But let's face it. There are lots of CH's who don't exactly try to look good to their fellow players.


I have a CH friend who plays one like it should be played. She avoids the GCW. She avoids PvP. She goes out and hunts and harvests and runs a small Organics business. She isn't credit-hungry(she sold me a trained Kaadu for 8k when all the other CH's were charging 100k)and does not advertise. She sells to only her selected clientele (and good stuff I'll add for really cheap). But she loves her animals and plays her character more like a loner Druid than some uber-"I got my Rancor and Kimogila now you better go run" PVP'er like a lot of CH's play. Let's face it: CH's aren't popular because of their pets. Their popular because they're good in a fight. Some call them PvP Munchkins. Some call them L33T's. I call it stupid.




Lonkley
Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:58 pm
#34

I saw your posts in the CH forum Ackis, and I wasnt going to say anything, but since you started a thread. You are totally out of line to go into their thread and **edit** about their profession. It is trolling, and it is rude. and im no CH lover either.They have every righttoask for fixes to their profession. Your posts just makes DE's look whiny, and its sad to see you proudly boast that you're trolling their forum.


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Nailliar
Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:45 pm
#35

You all wonder why CH is the most powerful and Easily the most Attention-slathered professsion... The former SWG creative developer and now SOE creative director or some title Holocron was the Pet Developer from his last company and game... AO I believe, could be wrong, I was playing EQ at the time. Any wonder that the man who made pets in his other job would make them so prominent in the next game he worked on and was partially in charge of.?!?!?! I'd say that was a hiring Mis-Match...look at the evidence....P-O-K-E Wars vs. Star Wars and Droids.



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"You have failed me for the last time, SOE"
Sodan-droiddreamer
Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:20 pm
#36






Lonkley wrote:

I saw your posts in the CH forum Ackis, and I wasnt going to say anything, but since you started a thread. You are totally out of line to go into their thread and **edit** about their profession. It is trolling, and it is rude. and im no CH lover either.They have every righttoask for fixes to their profession. Your posts just makes DE's look whiny, and its sad to see you proudly boast that you're trolling their forum.



Bullcrap. What about Pluto9 or whatever his name? The CHpulling for DH on these boards? Its all open game, including being shamed for doing it.




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Ackis
Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:22 pm
#37






Lonkley wrote:

I saw your posts in the CH forum Ackis, and I wasnt going to say anything, but since you started a thread. You are totally out of line to go into their thread and **edit** about their profession. It is trolling, and it is rude. and im no CH lover either.They have every righttoask for fixes to their profession. Your posts just makes DE's look whiny, and its sad to see you proudly boast that you're trolling their forum.





Go jump off a cliff please.


I'm sick of all the stupid **edit**s who are calling me a troll. CHs are whining for MORE to be added to their damned class. After being overpowered and having NO **edit**ing place in THIS game they keep on asking for more. Not enough that they already have had 5-6 months of DEV time, they're complaining because they don't have the uber pet. I am not out of line in my posts. Did you READ the first **edit**ing post in their thread? Wedemand these **edit**ing creatures in out class, blah blah blah. The creatures listed ARE more than the choices DEs have and it gets a red-name response? Bull**edit**. If you're going to have a petition then it's open to EVERYONE, not just those who are going to sign it.


So, I rephrase again: jump off a cliff. Also, **edit** off.


Oh yah, don't use that stupid **edit**ing rant thing because it's **edit**ing lame to make someone who wants to quote you have to go into the html and remove it as a tag.


Quit **edit**ing trolling.



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DarthBukai
Tue Feb 10, 2004 10:45 pm
#38






Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
I think its fair to say that the devs got is @ss backwards with the creatures vs. droids. Anyone who has ever seens star wars knows that its the droid diveristy that makes the universe special.






I've said it before and I'll say it a million times. This was because of Raph's masturbatory obsession with creature pets.



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Sodan-droiddreamer
Tue Feb 10, 2004 11:15 pm
#39






DarthBukai wrote:





Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
I think its fair to say that the devs got is @ss backwards with the creatures vs. droids. Anyone who has ever seens star wars knows that its the droid diveristy that makes the universe special.






I've said it before and I'll say it a million times. This was because of Raph's masturbatory obsession with creature pets.



Who's Raph? Does he like goats?




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