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CaixCatab

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:13 am

Bail_Runningrider wrote:

Zoul,

The reason why so many DEs are resisting the addition of DC is becausefor 8 months, we had been promised the moon, the stars and everything in between for a "new and improved" Droid Engineer profession...then at the last minute, we were then told that all of those new things (combat droids, modules, etc.) are now just going to be handed over to another profession entirely...instead of fixing DE.

(For the record, I hate this forum software. I can't get it do what I want and have gotten used to from other forums. I actually have to think, instead of just using experience. Woes!)

The majority of the DE profession was pretty explicit; No hybrid, we want to be"pure" crafter. The majority of the DE's didn't WANT combat droids within the profession. In fact, the most popular system that the devs rejected on balance was certification that would allow COMBAT professions to weild these droids.

Ever since DE's said no to droid engineers becoming the CH/BE combo, assuming the devs play nice and follow the majority (which, even though I think the majority is wrong, is a good thing), we were never supposed to be a part of combat droids other than creating them.

As for modules, well what kind of modules can they give DC that were not going to be able to use? Offensive ones? Well, that's "duh". Utility? It's certainly more valid to worry about these than the rest, but in the scheme of things I think it's a minor concern that we couldveto out of the idea, instead of rejecting the thought alltogheter. h

This is like being promised a new car for months, only to have your dad pull you aside the week before he buys it and says, "I've decided to give the car to your sister instead...but you can still wash it once a week and tunethe engine for her, but you can't drive it."

It's closer to being a mechanic building the car, telling your dad you want to build better cars, while refusing to take a drivers license ("No combat perks for us DE's! We're crafters!") and then get all riled up at the idea of actually getting to build the car but have someone elsewith a drivers license use it.

"We" didn't want combat droids within our class, and we didn't get them.

See my point? Instead of revamping the DE profession, as promised by TH, JustG and the devs,

Which part makes it impossible for DC to be a part of the revamp; i.e. the introduction of usefull combat droids instead of that piece of hovering pathfinding-droid?

More combat droids + more utility droids + bug fixes = I call that a reiteriated DE. So we're not getting additional combat droids, latest word on the extra utility droids are pessimistic at best, and I severly doubt we'll get more bug fixes than usual.

In what way does post-poning DC actually make the profession go forward towards a revamp?

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Warrhawk

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:20 am

#28

Have we effectively slit our own throats by resisting Droid Commander?

NO NO NO NO and NO.

If any blame is to be placed, it is to be placed squarely on the shoulders of SOE for releasing and unfinished game. Also on the Dev's shoulders for releasing the DE profession with so many bugs. You have got to be kidding me that this is somehow yours and my fault. We all only wanted the best for this professoin and have been optimistic and upbeat about it until only recently when the Devs sent us on this rollor coaster ride of broken promises and misleading directions.

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N0RAX

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:21 am

#29

Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
Bullcrap. We slit our throats by saying we didn't want combat droids in the DE tree which is where they were going: CH+BE=DE.

I agree with you there. Compared to the current DH idea I would take the CH+BE=DE anyday. The problem is that the Devs never told us what the alternative was when we rejected CH+BE=DE. OUR idea of the alternative was to give Droids to everyone via certification, but the Devs went in a completely differnt direction. Had we known at the time, I believe we'd be in a very differnt situation right now.

-norax

Virtanis

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:24 am

#30

N0RAX wrote:

OUR idea of the alternative was to give Droids to everyone via certification, but the Devs went in a completely differnt direction.

Holocron's idea too..... since July of '03!

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N0RAX

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:28 am

#31

Virtanis wrote:
N0RAX wrote:
OUR idea of the alternative was to give Droids to everyone via certification, but the Devs went in a completely differnt direction.

Holocron's idea too..... since July of '03!

So true, yet another reason why CH+BE=DE was rejected. We had been talking certs for such a long time before they sprang the CH+BE=DE idea on us. Why were we talking about that direction to begin with? Because that is the direction Holocron led us in.

-norax

Kilarny

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:28 am

#32

"Their fault" -Virtanis

Right on!

The proposed DH/DC/DM/ "Droid Fondler" class should have either been the first thing onthe In Concept forum.

Itshould have been at least vaguely referred to at some point before the "This is what we're going to do next month" messages we got.

Daker-Naritus

Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:30 am

#33

Have We Effectively Slit Our Own Throats By Resisting Droid Commander?

No.