Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Question about survey droids...
Vevy wrote:
...I have no combat skills either "sunshine"...read my sig and remember I've already told you I'm a MA as well...so do the math and add up the # of sp I have left...don't hurt yourself
...I've never sold a single piece of stun armor for the very reasons you're admonishing me about. I actually agree with you about the pricing and that's why I've refused to make it. The difference is I feel I've risen above it by simply not participating while you've seemed to stoop to their level. I suppose that gives you the moral high-ground on this issue...hmmm?
...I've never bought vertex until it just spawned last week...so i've never contributed to the 80cpu craze...sorry to disappoint you
Hehe, I see Vevy took her complaints to the DE forums. The problem is Vevy some of the DEs you talked to gave you same shizzle run around and most likely got disgusted at it because you use to give out composite armor segments to help them out, but now when you wanted these new survey droids from the DEs you helped.... they stiff you. Try to understand that on our (scylla) server, Vertex was spawned just 1 day left when the patch was released. If a DE didn't read the DE forums and had known prior to the publish that Vertex was a required specific, then it would have been hard to get. Yes people would be selling them for insane amounts of cpu, BUT.... remember DEs don't make money. Hell, Tailors make more money than DEs and they don't even require quality resources.
Anyway, please don't generalize DEs. Reason why I quoted you is because you are speaking on how you arenotfrom the generalAS/WS population, BUT you are generalizing the entire DEs.
Here's what I get most /tells about.... Structure Maintanence droids. No one really seems to want the survey droids. I am selling them for 10k a crate of 5 with 12 charges each and haven't sold any. Saying that, you can obviously see how much in demand these droids are. Yes YOU may have a high requirement for these surveying droids, but.... not every crafter wants them like a hotcake.
BTW, I am a Master Artisan/DE/Rifle, and have novice med with FA 1. So if the math is done correctly, you can have Master AS/MA/WS and have some combat skills for beating up chubas.
Not here to flame you, just trying to understand why you keep dogging us DEs
Hitomi Hikaru of Scylla
With regards to vertex, I don't think the regularity ofthe spawn should dictate prices, as it is, I have a large stockpileo f vertex from the previous spawn and there is fresh spawn on Farstar now.
It's only based on.......the PITA factor.
Basically, item that require named ressource have an increased pita factor.
Item that require factory made items have an increased pita factor. (adv droid brain has a huge pita factor).
Items that require composant no other shematics I have require have an increased pita factor.
Survey droid require items almost no other shematics require, and require good quality named ressources.
So, it has a high pita factor, and so it's expensive.
Basically, the more it's a pain to build, the more expensive it'll be.
As for the attitudes of DEs, you'll find that in every profession, thats how people are, it has nothing to do with the DE profession. And as far as stock, I have plenty of survey droids on my vendor on Starsider.
Rippen Tuck
RippenCo Droids, Inc.
Starsider, Naboo
Rippen Tuck
RippenCo Droids, Inc.
Starsider, Naboo
Hitomi,
I've said before not ALL DEs were bad, but I just couldn't believe the attitude that went through our server with regards to these...and no I didn't bring my arguement here. The DEs themselves started this discussion by some desire to justify their high prices. I just asked what mech quality did and commented that I didn't think they were worth 20k and look what happened...lol
I'd say there's some repressed issues going on in this thread that such a heated discussion could be set loose by such a small comment...anyway whatever floats their boat.
As for me I've washed my hands of DEs in general after this little fiasco...and it's got nothing to do with the money. If I wanted the droids bad enough I woulda paid any price to get them. My personal feelings on the issue DO have to do with the fact that I've given free compo segments to any DE who came groveling at my doorstep and never asked a thing in return. One DE I did ask to make me a crafting droid, which if memory serves I even paid for...and I've used the droid maybe 5x. This whole discussion just feeds into my general mindset of why I slowly stop doing favors for people because NOONE ever appreciates it.
On our server there's just no excuse for it. I bought 500k of vertex AFTER it shifted out and I know where I can get another 1mil units for 20cpu if I really wanted it so even if you missed the spawn there's still no excuse. IMHO, the DEs I dealt with got startstruck when they realized rich crafters were looking for these droids...so they immediately thought they were high-rollers able to play the game like other big crafters...a few of the responses on this thread show that kind of stupidity isn't reserved for our server either.
I wasn't asking for free droids, in fact I was offering a contract worth several million credits and all I needed was one DE willing to make them. I pay people VERY well who do things for me, yet it amazed me how in a few days these DE went from begging for segments to thinking they were at the top of the food chain. After several hours and listening to 7-8 DEs whine...I wised up and just made my own because YES any master artisan CAN make them with any grinding resources available, just by getting a single schem made...no idea why snake feels this isn't possible because I did it and have 60+ crates now to prove it...but again whatever he chooses to convince himself of is fine with me...he clearly has little idea what it takes to run a successful biz anyway.
From my point of view Hitomi, the DEs on our server lost millions by adopting their foolish attitude and they lost a friend who otherwise would have kept supplying them with freecompo segments...and a few of em who were even more arrogant were banned from my shop (and these were regular customers). I'm sure lots of DEs are sitting on droids they can't sell now too...I wonder how many OTHER crafters went through the same thing I did and made their own and this is the result. IF that is the case then I'd say the DEs should think carefully the NEXT time they get a hot commodity and how they treat their millionaire customers. I'll continue to use these droids, but I'll be d@mned if I buy them from any DE in the near future.
I charge 2k per charge for mine and if the customer isn't willing to pay that then I don't care, cause its not worth my time/money to make them if they sell for less than that unfortunately.
i know 2k per charge is a high price but the raw resource required to make them are worth at least that much.on top of that, the 3:1 ratio of EGPM to EMM components required makes these thingssomewhat frustrating to make in a factory run. doing a factory run of these things consumes a lot of factory time, time that is far better spent making advanced droid brains or advanced R3 chassis'.
that's the bottom line. the time and resources required to make these things is expensive. it is worth 2k per charge tome. If they going rate on the droids is less than that then I simply won't make them because it isn't worthmy time/money.