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Thread: Where is that Uber-post on why droid Certs won't work?

Thunderheart
Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:57 pm
#14

Its not up yet. Runsabrewill put it up as soon as he can. Probably tomorrow or Thursday.





Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
TyeDyeBoy
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:01 pm
#15






Hillslayer wrote:
You said this afternoon. And as for the DE idea thread that was suposed to show up by the 9th at the latest, that never appeared either. Not even an explaination for the delay. Why should we beleive it'll happen this time? What makes this time any different from all the other times?





Methinks, perhaps, the fire they've caused here is going to take a little while to smooth out properly. And to be fair, he DID explain that it hadn't shown up because of all the internal meetings that had to take place on the subject.


Well this has been quite the mess, hasn't it.

N0RAX
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:02 pm
#16

Thunderheart,

You need to stop making promises you can't keep. Its hurting your credibility on this forum. Earlier you said it would be up this afternoon.



Thunderheart wrote:

I spoke to Blair about all the pain on this issue and we're going to have Runsabre put up an uberpost this afternoon.






Now its not going to be until tomorrow or possibly Thursday?

Told you guys not to get your hopes up.

-norax
JellybeanWanderhome
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:03 pm
#17






Thunderheart wrote:

Its not up yet. Runsabrewill put it up as soon as he can. Probably tomorrow or Thursday.





yay... i think...no, wait.... mreh
Hillslayer
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:04 pm
#18

Also, going into this profession myself I must say that SOE as a whole has shown me more things not to do, both to the customer and the game, then any other game I have ever played. This isn't communication. Communication means someone was listening. And as SOE has shown over and over, and not only in DE but all classes and general gameplay, they just don't care. It appears they have enough money coming into thier pockets to make them happy.



-Jaramar Hillslayer
Ex-Chef Ex-Squad Leader Ex-Pikeman Ex-Rifleman Droid Engineer

SOE's favorite SW quote - "I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further."
Thunderheart
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:10 pm
#19

Its not done yet because Runesabre has a lot of responsibilities and taking time to post things isnt always possible. He posts when he can, but if something more important comes up, it gets bumped down the priority list. If something regarding the publish comes up tomorrow and it takes RS all day to tend to it, then it gets bumped again. It might get bumped Thursday too and it might night. It all depends on how the work day goes. Everyone here is working long hard days to get the publish out and that is the team's focus.


It is something that will get done, but you are just going to have to wait until he can do it without it impacting his normal day's efforts.





Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
duncje
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:13 pm
#20

This is exactly what happens every time. We get one day of "feedback", "we're listening" and "DE is our top priority", then the devs think we've been appeased enough to go back to plotting the next CH changes behind the scenes.


They'll string us along for another month or two, then come back for more "feedback".


Bleh. With a capital "B"




Beebo
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JellybeanWanderhome
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:30 pm
#21






Thunderheart wrote:

Its not done yet because Runesabre has a lot of responsibilities and taking time to post things isnt always possible. He posts when he can, but if something more important comes up, it gets bumped down the priority list. If something regarding the publish comes up tomorrow and it takes RS all day to tend to it, then it gets bumped again. It might get bumped Thursday too and it might night. It all depends on how the work day goes. Everyone here is working long hard days to get the publish out and that is the team's focus.


It is something that will get done, but you are just going to have to wait until he can do it without it impacting his normal day's efforts.




Well, I like the honesty.


I hate that current honesty is in opposition to past statements.


Whatever... The only DEs left are masacist anyways.

KzinKiller
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:36 pm
#22

Yes folks, it was wrong of TH to give you a firm timeframe originally for the 'uberthread' publication ... and it's probably overly optimistic to call it an uberthread ... but if you haven't learned to take his timeline predictions with a back of rocksalt by now, then who's to blame?


Keep providing intelligent feedback, don't let them off the hook if they throw you a bunch of PR bologna ... that's all you can do.





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JavelinCatcher
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:39 pm
#23

I really wasn't compaining why we hadn't gotten it yet ...just if I had missed it going from thread to thread.



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HawkCormyr
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:44 pm
#24






Thunderheart wrote:

Its not up yet. Runsabrewill put it up as soon as he can. Probably tomorrow or Thursday.








Yeaaahh .....


Once again effective communication :


TH :... we will post it today


TH: .... well maybe tomorrow


TH: ,,, well maybe thursday


TH :... well it is a little touchy so we willtake time to think about about the change and post when we have some constructing ideas ....


...


...


A few month later ...


TH: You know you will be really happy we have think of a DH ! to implement the droids certs systems


DE :........



I really feel like they have nothing to care about DE , the more time pass the more i feel anger at SOE




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duncje
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:50 pm
#25






KzinKiller wrote:

Yes folks, it was wrong of TH to give you a firm timeframe originally for the 'uberthread' publication ... and it's probably overly optimistic to call it an uberthread ... but if you haven't learned to take his timeline predictions with a back of rocksalt by now, then who's to blame?


Keep providing intelligent feedback, don't let them off the hook if they throw you a bunch of PR bologna ... that's all you can do.




I don't care about dates missed by a day or two, or even a week, if the end result finally gets there. Out of all the "feedback" the devs have collected since launch regarding DE's, show me one thing in the game that's changed as a result of it. Think hard now.... not one thing. Not one that I can think of. We've given them plenty of feedback, it's time for them to actually do something with it.



Beebo
Master Droid Engineer | Shipwright | Master Artisan
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KzinKiller
Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:56 pm
#26

duncje, I'm definitely not arguing with that point of view. I think if Runesabre is going to make an uber-DE post, it should be addressing the DE correspondent's "5-issues" thread point by point. It's so premature to talk about a new profession when the existing one is broken, and it's comical to ask for new input on what DE's want in the profession when they've provided an AVALANCHE of it over the last few months .... but I'd get used to it.




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