Droid Engineer Archive

Bleda your extremely misinformed bud,

You tell me what they have actually fixed besides the modules which should have worked when the game came out( and some modules still dont work) for the DEs? Dont know any? Thats because there are none. I havea BH and like you there are going to be alot of upset ones, just dont come to me asking for a seeker. If the devs want to play the ignore game DEs can too.

The purpose of a strike is to strike against those that are causing the problems. Your strike is just completely fubaring an innocent bystander proffesion that actually HELPS yours. If this happens i really hope they put the droid vendors in to screw you for not wanting to play ball cause this is just bull what you are trying to do.

The memory modules are say oh an infinite improvement over what BH's have gotten fixed, we have gotten a whole NOTHING fixed. Infact they have just broken more and more stuff for us. Sorry that you guys are getting ignored but atleast they got to your feedback we are being ignored AND not getting feedback at all.

Glad to see some DE's also against this half-baked idea.

Also note that i really do prefer buying from a DE than a vendor especially with the upcoming changes to make them with charges. Its nice being able to interact with the economy but if people aren't willing then the only other way is to put the vendors back in.

Dont hold your breath seraph. Took them 2 months to fix some of the modules we have and nerf the probots, you want to wait till the expansion for them to actually listen to us?

well since the posting I saw were today, I'd imagine we'll se ethe changes within the next couple weeks. The next "expansion" is next year.

Your missing the point Bleda, unlike BHs 95% of our profession is broken and the only part they are fixing is completely aligned with BH, why? because there are about 500 BHs to every DE.

As a BH I'd like to point out that it was impossible to charge a fair price for droids due to your own costs involved, and I think most BH knew that. The problem is your craft will incure costs based upon the current market conditions of the player run economy, you will raise the prices of your products accordingly. BH missions have a static payout so we can not inflate our own costs to compensate for the overall inflation that is occuring across all servers.

What this means is that we were lossing money running our missions, and due to the point costs involved with being a BH we can not have any sort of craft on the side and still function. People who dabble in the BH line dont bother with investigation thus do not need droids. There is no "benefit" to the skill boxes in investigation other then Mods to how well the droids work for us which si only a benefit if you want to complete that line. The only reason people complete the line now is to become a master (i am 1/2 way through the third box, and it will take 130-260 hours of bounty hunting at the current XP rewards to finish the line).

Even tho it was possible to come out slightly ahead on some missions, every few missions (with a 10k reward) will tell you the mark is on endor (like 4k for a ticket there?) so it must be aborted and you cut your losses at the probe droid and travel costs to go from a terminal to an informant. That cost eats up the profits on any mission you run that goes well. I totaly agree that BH mission droids should come from DE's, but i dont want to see either class be forced to eat a loss on it. Ther is also an issue where you will use a seeker droid, the waypoint it gives you appears off the map, and you crash to desktop and can not get back in for 30 minutes, and when you do must abort the mission. These affect our bottom line too.

The big reason i am posting here is to point out it was not 2 days of complaining about the state of droids, and the devs have not responded to our own "Corrispondent" issues as of this post. They have responded to DE's at least 2 times now, but told us over a week ago it would be tomorow (in the general discution forums) before yesterday there had been no dev post on our boards in weeks. We have had no response at all concerning our specific issues raised. The investigation line itself it the hardest 4 boxes in the game to get in terms of time invested. The first boxes can be gimped totaly on novice (no droid required) missions and can go sort of fast, but that last 24-28k Xp comes at 100 per hour (occasionaly get lucky and get a quick 30 minute mission).

Oh i am sorry only 80% (3 of the 4 lines) of ours is broken my mistake! Oh wait i forgot with this new and exciting change that the DE's propose they are going to SCREW us completely and make us 100% broke YAY!!!! If it wasn't for the fact that i know 90% of the DE's are not trolls like you i would seriously consider calling for the vendors again based on the refusal of DE's to participate in the game.

No skin off my back, when they initially said seekers were going to be exclusive to DEs we got nothing but rants from DEs, or them saying we dont need your seekers we can do it without. Your wrong about one thing though alot more DEs will strike numerous pages of our main SWG post that was closed was about us striking...

rants from BHs not DEs, but I assume you figuered that..

I am against this strike. As people have mentioned, the only ones this hurts are the BH. IF you want to strike, strike against making ALL droids. It makes little sense to me to strike - if you make droids for people and then tell them the details (and explain the bug details) and they figure out 'hey droids really suck' there will be more of a cry to fix them from other professions - not that this matters so much anymore considering the 20 page post that was closed because it wasn't "constructive", but I digress.

By striking from making JUST probes and seekers, you target BH specifically. I have several BH friends, and I used to have to explain to them the fact that making seekers is just not economical for me as I could be spending the same time and reosurces to make higher ticket items than what most BH will accept, and they have been completely understanding. However, striking JUST on seekers and probes NOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FIXED, they will not understand - I know this as I do not even understand the logic behind it!

By the way...this was one of the expected outcomes of the removal of the bounty hunter droid terminals. This effected BH more than it effected DE in my opinion, and if this was included in the notes, then they shouldn't have to post it here as you will see it when you play the farging game - EVERYBODY should read ALL the patch notes, not just come here to find condensed versions of what effects their professions.

Go ahead and strike you will get a dev response, it will be to make the vendors active again so they can just cut DE's out of the loops since they obviously refuse to play the game.

Seeker droids, 172 resources. Going price on intrepid, 3k. Currently cost more to buy the droids from DE's than we get payout with the failure rate (ie space slug eats your droid.) That's before we factor in the cost of travel. We are already "nerf'ed" having to buy through you guys. A lot of BH's have given up themissions completely (or like me sold back Investigation 1 and 2 so I can make money again). With the new charges makes it better for both parties. I will be buying droids again and advancing, DE will be getting more business for a simple, easy to make,expendable, necessary item.