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OutlawEdi

Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:30 pm

#14

There should be a Wink in my last post...

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Ackis

Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:09 pm

#15

For more information regarding droids please see:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=droid_engineer&message.id=64526

Sketh has updated his droid manual.

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Ackis

Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:12 pm

#16

Kollos, I'm sorryI forgot to reply to your post earlier.

The information regarding stacking just deals with their levels, not their ratings, which essentially means this is the minumum needed to stack. This section always seems to draw comments. LOL

The table I saw of Drashks involved sub-component usage (ie: night of 100 LE Repair Droids)

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Ackis

Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:19 pm

#17

A new Droid Owners manual has been posted. It's an excellent compliment to this FAQ. URL is enclosed below.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=droid_engineer&message.id=64526

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Kollos

Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:22 pm

#18

Found it... the table is Drashk's, the explanation following itis mine.

Module LevelModule Rating Medical Rating Items Stored Data Stored
1 1 - 3 55 1 20
2 3 - 5 65 2 40
3 5 - 7 75 4 70
4 7 - 9 85 6110
59 - 11 100 8125
611 - 13 110 10 150

Any combination of modules resulting in the average Module Rating (or greater) for a Module Level will produce the effects of that Module Level. Thus if you combine fourLevel 1 modules that all have a Module Rating of 3 you will end up withan effective Module Level of 6.

The easiest way to fake a Level 6 module is to use a pair of Level4 modules since their minimum Module Rating is 7. 7 + 7 = 14, which is greater than the 12 needed to produce the effects of a Level 6 module. However, if you have experimentation points, you can easily produce the same effect with a pair of Level 3 modules that you have experimented up to a Module Rating of 6 each.

Message Edited by Kollos on 02-18-2004 05:23 PM

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Ackis

Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:14 pm

#19

Kollos, nice... but there's something lost when you stack, at least that's what I recall when I did stack. LOL

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Kollos

Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:38 pm

#20

Hmm... really? Now that calls for a test.

I'll get back to you, probably tomorrow, after I've tried a few different combinations.

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Ackis

Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:25 pm

#21

Kollos wrote:

Hmm... really? Now that calls for a test. I'll get back to you, probably tomorrow, after I've tried a few different combinations.

It's a lil past tomorrow... LOL

Did you have a chance to test this?

BTW, I'm more than willing to keep this FAQ updated, if you DEs feed me the info.

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Kollos

Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:51 pm

#22

Yes, I did, but the precise stats were lost when my hard drive crashed. I'll do it again... it wasn't a big deal.

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Kollos

Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:36 pm

#23

Ok, here's enough information to prove that we really don't know how these stack. :-)

I only made 4 test droids, all of them R4-ADV, but the results will probably surprise you.

R4 #1 - 3 x Level 1 unexperimented. Module ratings were 1 each, 3 on the Droid.

R4 #2 - 3 x Level 1 experimented. Module ratings were 2 each, 6 on the Droid.

R4 #3 - 3 x Level 2 unexperimented. Module ratings were 3 each, 9 on the Droid.

R4 #4 - 3 x Level 2 experimented. Module ratings were 4 each, 12 on the Droid.

End result item storage (tamed 'em and opened their compartments to look):

1) capacity of 2

2) capacity of 4

3) capacity of 8

4) capacity of 10

Droids 2 and 4 worked exactly like I thought they would. The Droid's Item Storage Rating matched an existing "target" value for an Item Storage modulein Drashk's chart, and the Droid's actual capacity matched that module. (Droid #2 matches a Level 4 Item Storage Module. Droid #4 matches a Level 6 Item Storage Module.)

However, Droids 1 and 3 are out in left field somewhere. Both "known" methods of determining actual capacity tell us that Droid #1 should have had an actual capacity of 1, not 2. Worse, because its actual capacity was not 3 (which would have made sense as 3 modules that normally have capacity of 1), there's clearly some sort of calculation going on and we just don't know what it is.

Droid 3 is the weirdest one, though. Where's it getting a capacity of 8? That's HIGHER than either formula tells us, and worse it is even higher than what you'd normally get from 3 separate level 2 modules. **edit**?

After taking a look at the results, though, I think that Drashk's chart is still correct, but that (at least when using 3 modules) you don't have to get to the middle module rating. Droid 1's total MR of 3 and capacity of 2 matches the minimum values for a Level 2 Item Storage module. Droid 3's total MR of 9 and capacity of 8 matches the minimum values for a Level 5 Item Storage module.

Further anecdotal evidence from many sources about using a pair of L3 modules that were experimented but claimed to have MR values of 5, but when combined into a droid resulted in a total MR of 11 and an actual capacity of 10, further reinforces this theory.

So... that's enough for me, I guess. Add up your total Module Rating and look it up on Drashk's chart and that will tell you the actual item storage (or, presumably, the other attributes) once the Droid has been called.

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Ackis

Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:29 am

#24

Good work... need to take that in somewhat LOL

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KarlieOkota

Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:56 am

#25

I can confirm that stacking works on the rating value of each module. We used this value to determine the final build capacity when designing my websites droid builder utility. When two or more modules are stacked, you simply add the rating values together. The total rating is compared against the highest module and if it is equal to or more than that rating, the capacity will be the same. If the rating is lower, the next lowest module is compared.

For example, stacking a Level 2 and a Level4 module together will give you a total rating of 10 (3 + 7). This is lower than the rating of the Level 6 module, so the combined modules would give you a capacity matching the Level 5 module (8 slots).

Ihope this helps, it is not easy to explain without the pictures my husband had to draw for me

Kindest regards,

Karlie.

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A TCON Engineering Corporation (Wanderhome) subsidiary
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Ackis

Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:16 am

#26

So the formula would be:

X= Sum(storage module ratings)

Case:
X = 0 Items = 0
X < 3 Items = 1
X < 5 Items = 2
X < 7 Items = 4
X < 9 Items = 6
X < 11 Items = 8
else Items = 10

Which would mean it's impossible to get storage of 3, 5, 7 or 9?

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