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Thread: New DE Plan.....I will be the first to scream NERF!

Battle_Droid_General
Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:33 pm
#14

master marksman not artisan*



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Eutock
Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:39 pm
#15


I agree with Jenden. Seems like the engineering part of DE (i.e. building droids for the sake of selling to customers) will be thrown right off the rancor if combat droids become a DE exclusive.






DossaOfBria wrote:

a decent number of DE are gonna go combat, but let's face it, a master DE/master Artisan barely has enough skillpoints to purchase the basic combat profession, and ya can't fight battles that way and survive for very long, imho.





This brings up a good point...the new DE profession will be the only combat class with no combat skills in its sub-profession. Or will the Engineering skill tree get combat skills? Either the skills/weapons for combat droids will be overly powerful (which always leads to nerfing), or they will relatively weak, leaving them just as tinker toys.



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Droid-Creator
Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:51 pm
#16

If DEs shouldn't be a combat profession then neither should CH.

Our base class is artisan

Theirs is Scout NOT brawler or marksman...scout isn't a combat profession, go troll on their boards


(can I sue the original poster ? I think his posts are making me lose IQ points)



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Battle_Droid_General
Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:56 pm
#17

isnt a combat profession? its a combat support, and scout reasonably leads into CH considering creature knowledge is the primary purpose of scout. thats one of the weakest assaults at my opinions ive seen yet.



and DE still has enough skill points to go and grab MASTER pistoleer, plus the fact that DE requires nothing more than engy 4 to get, and im only referring to the bare basics here. This is not a class for combat.




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Therearentan
Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:10 pm
#18

Ok, You know what. I've waited 4 months for this completely useless class to get fixed, while apologizing that not a **edit** thing I make works right, and today I got the news that not only have they not done anything for our class in 4 months but they have no intention of doing anything usefull for our class anytime soon. I've completely had it, and I'm unloading with both barrels.


Battle droid...


GO TO LOK WITH A PROBOT AND SEND IT AFTER ANY MOB ON THE PLANET. THEN COME BACK HERE AND TELL ME HOW UNBALANCED DE WILL BE. BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY HOW LONG THE **edit** THING IS GOING TO LAST AFTER THEY PUT IN COMBAT MODULES.


The modules don't make any difference. Increased damage doesn't matter at all. Because the **edit** things will still die in 3-4 hits from any mob that anyone might actually want to fight after getting their novice.


Seriously man. Go by a Probot and learn what you're talking about first. It can't hold it's own against a CL 23 Grand Wrix for more than 30 seconds. Even with increased damage, it's still dead so fast it's useless.




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Droid-Creator
Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:12 pm
#19

It is as much a combat class as a CH should be. If I can build a droid I can operate it. You're just being a whinny little **self edit** because you are afraid someone is getting something you aren't

you come off as a three year old throwing a tantrum.



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Jenden
Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:47 pm
#20

Why do people continue to compare DE and CH.... I am a droid ENGINEER, not a droid handler. I do not build droids so that I can use them, I use them because they are handy and cheap since I can build them. While some creature handlers may like to think that they are similar to a craftsman craft since they can sell people non-ch pets, hate to tell you but your wrong. You go out and tame creatures so you can use them, then sell off some extras for some profit. We (at least, most of us), make droids to sell to customers, and generally make some for ourselves to make our lives a little bit easier.


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DroidFool83
Sat Oct 25, 2003 1:14 am
#21

You know this whole thread is completely unwarranted.. Ok, the devs announced we are getting a combat droid. That is great news, but here is one simple question.


Do you know ANYTHING about this combat droid, besides what has already been mentioned? I believe the answer to that question is no.


So before you start crying nerf likea little baby why don't you: stand back, think a little, and just wait for the actual changes to come. Because the only thing this thread has been is annoying.

WookieWangler
Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:38 am
#22

I think you'll find that devs didnt announce we are getting new combat droids... They gave some vague implication that we might get DE only combat droid MODULES to put into existing droids some time in the next oooh I dunno, year?

There are enough DEs complaining about this awful 'Plan', we dont need BEs feeling like their toes are getting stepped on too
WolfClaws
Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:58 am
#23

wow, i have never seen so many cry outside of a nursery.



do i agree with having a de specific battle droid? no.


would it help the run to my harvesters? only if it is slightly more effective than the probot.


is the DE profession going to be uber because of this 1 droid? dumb question... no it isn't.


the probot can be taken by any critter over cl 12 pretty much. that means non ch can kill it with a pet.


i have seen players with 2 grauls a at-st and a probot waiting for rebels at the starport... that's a lot of firepower. i only see people complain when they get beaten.


the only reason why you all are crying is that you can't have one. suck it up.. get over it.


like i said, i don't agree with it. i am not a fighter, but a crafter, but will i use it? yes i will.



get off of your soapboxes and just play with the hand you are dealt. nearly all of the secondary crafting classes are broke,, fact of life.


deal with it. stop complaining. you really think grown adults want to hear this? i imagine the devs just tune out excessive unconstructive complaints. i know i do.




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tacwraith
Sat Oct 25, 2003 7:03 am
#24

Thats one retarded post.

You whining that DE's can use droids in combat? That DE does not require as much skill trees as BE to be 'truly good' at it?

DE's need to be Master Artisans. DE's Need to spend a LOT of resources in building droids AND harvesters (and their upkeep). And they have enough skill points to go up some weapon lines if they truly want to (though most DE's I know have gone up armorsmith lane.. i think its to make the armor layers).

BE's DONT need to be master rangers, thats a PERK. If you havent noticed that creatures of X type can always be found in X region of a planet then you sir, are one retarded BE. All Rangers do is cause a certain creature to spawn close to you, thats not a requirement, thats a BONUS. DE NEED to be master artisans or they wont be able to make their droid components.. BE's oth, can find that high level creature to DNA sample just by going to those areas where the creatures spawn and run around a bit. Rangerhood is just to pacify your laziness.

BUT! I'll grant you that idiotic belief that Ranger is needed to be an effective BE. TADA! you are now Master Bio Engineer and you have Tracking 3 and Wayfaring 4 (all BE really needs to be able to sample in your whinyworld).

What? Now you whine that you cant use your stuff in combat? I got news for you boy, YOU HAVE ENOUGH POINTS LEFT TO BE CREATURE HANDLER 4/4/0/0 . Yes, that means you can TAME and attack/follow me the creatures you make. You are now a combat class that can make its own pets, heal its own pets (you make pet stims and vit. packs), AND YOU STILL HAVE 15 points left over. You can put those in Marksman and fire off dlt20/dh17 weapons to boot.

Not only that but you are a RANGER AND a CH which makes you REALLY desirable in ANY hunting group. Even more if you use those 15 points IN YOUR MEDIC trees to get First Aid 2 (cure bleeding) and Diagnose 3 (heal faster) and use good quality stimB's (WHICH YOU CAN CRAFT).

So you, mr whiny BE, not only have FAR MORE things which you can produce to SELL (Medical Stims, Pet Stims, Tissues, tamed and engineered Pets, Harvested Organic Resources) but you have way more grouping capability than the DE (Tracking, Creature Handler, medic)

Comparing THAT to the DE who spends most of HIS points just so he can make his droids (master artisan, master DE, some armorsmith) and then has enough points to go up to ALMOST master in a single weapon type (3 points short of mastering it)... and has NO TERRAIN NEGOTIATION (yeah thats gonna make him popular in groups), who'se market is only his droids and who'se only contribution to a group will be combat droids and his own firepower...

How can you possibly say DE's have more stuff and are more combat capable than your BE?

Sit on your thumb and spin whineboy.




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FeartheMullet
Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:10 am
#25

Please don't post in a profession's forum you know nothing about. We've been waiting pateintly 5 months for a post like this, and all it is is something they threw together in a few minutes Friday. Did you actually read the whole thing? It was vague and we have no idea on how powerful these DE only droids will be. The post wasn't anything like the posts and fixes BE's havehad over the past few days. I've readthe first response to your "top 5 issues" a few month's ago and then read ours. Read your Patch notes in the last patch and then read ours. They didn't even inlude one of the 2 items they listed, and custimization didn't work for the first week or so (and of course they're were the 2 days we couldn't craft or call droids).


If you wan't to solve things go to your own forums and post constructivelyinstead of coming to our, already depressed forums.




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FeartheMullet
Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:11 am
#26

I meant *past few months not days...heh



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