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Thread: Droid Update!: The situation with the DE Hybrid proposal and CL10+ droids (04/02/04)

Malitevv
Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:56 pm
#14

that is another question. what does this mean about the futureof the profession's otherissues? what is officially on the plate for publish 8 still leaves many long-standing bugs and inconsistencies in the professions sitting on the table. i hope those will not be forgotten until after the space expansion.



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slaier0702
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:12 pm
#15






Malitevv wrote:
I would much prefer TK to deliver the news rather than TH. If nothing else, I am quite certain that TK understands the issues and the reasons better than TH does, and is thus betterqualified to provide the explanation.




When was TH's last posting on this board?

JavelinCatcher
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:18 pm
#16

ok....now that I'm done swearing....


I seriously thought we had a good plan put forward.



This is how I read this announcement: "Sorry guys, we're still doing Droid Commander."


Alright, well....back to the drawing board. *scratch* *scratch**scratch* *scratch*




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ReptileSpit
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:31 pm
#17






TheRealTK421 wrote:
I have been seeing/hearing July mentioned...but I wouldn't go by that.


With regard to release dates, I would highly recommend that do not count on any date till the box is on the shelf.



I've seen too many dates get pushed back. I prefer to subscribe to the "It will be out when it's out." philosophy.




/bow


Respectfully,









It will be announced and shown at E3 in May.


I'm guessing it will beta this summer.


I'd be shocked if it's out before November.


Jenden
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:35 pm
#18






ReptileSpit wrote:





TheRealTK421 wrote:
I have been seeing/hearing July mentioned...but I wouldn't go by that.


With regard to release dates, I would highly recommend that do not count on any date till the box is on the shelf.



I've seen too many dates get pushed back. I prefer to subscribe to the "It will be out when it's out." philosophy.




/bow


Respectfully,









It will be announced and shown at E3 in May.


I'm guessing it will beta this summer.


I'd be shocked if it's out before November.





I know I read somewhere that the new target date (according to retailers) is september... so I'd guess christmas.



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TheRealTK421
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:37 pm
#19






JavelinCatcher wrote:

ok....now that I'm done swearing....


I seriously thought we had a good plan put forward.



Yup...me too. That's why I pushed so hard to see if it was a doable thing.


This is how I read this announcement: "Sorry guys, we're still doing Droid Commander."


Well...rethink it as: "Sorry guys, the Hybrid DE idea (while great) simply won't balance as well as a new profession and/or a well-designed faction combat droids will."


Alright, well....back to the drawing board. *scratch* *scratch**scratch* *scratch*


Indeed.




/bow

Respectfully,





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Pallida
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:40 pm
#20

And what the HELL is this 1-starring of TK for? He did nothing but deliver the bad news.


DON'T shoot themessenger... news, either good OR bad,is scarce enough as it is!



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TheRealTK421
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:41 pm
#21






Pallida wrote:

And what the HELL is this 1-starring of TK for? He did nothing but deliver the bad news.






It's no biggie. I've had a 1-star bandit for a few months now, I think. I don't put much stock in it anymore (and neither should any of you).


/bow

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"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


ArdenStarmariner
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:48 pm
#22

Well, that's pretty much it then. Guess some of you newer DE's still have energy and drive to go back to the drawing board, but I don't. I'm not spiraling down into flaming but into apathy. The DEV's can just go design and code whatever, I don't care anymore.

I'm gonna have to give serious consideration if its time for me to following the rest of the old timers into oblivion. I still had some hope until this announcement but its gone now.




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TheRealTK421
Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:51 pm
#23






ArdenStarmariner wrote:

I'm gonna have to give serious consideration if its time for me to following the rest of the old timers into oblivion. I still had some hope until this announcement but its gone now.




Arden,

I know you've been around a good while. I'd hope if nothing else you might spend a bit o' time doing other stuff and still keeping DE at arm's length (till it gets better, in your opinion).

I'm starting to gear up to hit more themeparks, etc., as a way to keep myself busy in-game. I'm pretty excited to get back to the Corvette (which is a blast, by the way).



/bow

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SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."


Lonkley
Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:07 pm
#24

What bothers me the most is that despite Runesabre's assertion otherwise, the plan has been and always will be a Droid Commander.


I mean it sure looked like it, considering all the contradicting limitiations we were given to suggest a plan. But despite those draconian requirements, we still made a plan that IS workable, and we're told that its not balanced. Not that it was too hard, or not possible. But not balanced. In a game that is grossly unbalanced, whose fixes are as far out as new droids. It was the same skill point cost as CH. How then is it not balanced? Especially since they've always had the control on the flip side of the coin, what is given, namely the power of the droids. oh well, no sense ranting about it.


If the DC was always inevitable, they should of put it in this patch, just as they planned. Delaying an unpopular patch doesnt change the fact that its unpopular, and if they were going to do it anyway, they should of just did it and be done with it. All its done now is delay introduction of combat droids for 6-12 months.


So TK, as far as im concerned, go back to them and tell them to finish what they started. Forget the utility droids no one wants, and give us the DC w/ the 3 droids thenew profession gets to use.


Now ive got to go off and think long and hard whether i want to drop DE.




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Lonkley
Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:08 pm
#25



Stupid Forumn. How the hell do they expect to run a MMORPG when they cant even run something as simle as their damn forums without errors.


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TheRealTK421
Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:24 pm
#26






Lonkley wrote:

So TK, as far as im concerned, go back to them and tell them to finish what they started. Forget the utility droids no one wants, and give us the DC w/ the 3 droids thenew profession gets to use.





You don't really want this, man. We've waited for any kind of work for so long that I don't think it's wise to have them change direction again (which they wouldn't do at this point anyway).

Nope...CL10+ droids won't happen until after Space. And that's that.



/bow

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SWG DE Correspondent
Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)
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