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Thread: harvesting droids

fotabett
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:08 am
#14

TY for the link, I posted there to revive the issue. (wish me luck!)



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youngjock
Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:50 pm
#15

The droid has to harvest the meat for you, on the radial it gives options to select the harvest choice meat, hide etc and in the same place you programme the harvest command. Not sure of any ratios but when harvesting from enraged Rancors I usually harvest 170ish units ofmeat and the droid harvests over 200 units. Hope this helps



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h310ise
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:21 pm
#16

I was just speaking w/ my DE today about this since my 88 harvesting rated r3 was significantly underperforming my expectations. Here's my data each taken from 4-6 kills of each creature type, all meat harvesting. My creature harvesting is at 45 (scout hunting 4).

reptilian flier youth
ME - 13
DROID - 16
DIFF +23%

reptilian flier
ME - 27
DROID - 32
DIFF +18

Some kind of antelope (forget the name )
ME - 37
DROID - 42
DIFF +13%

My (rather limited) testing so far shows the droid decreasing effectiveness the larger animal. Unless i was a rifleman wanting to stay covered 60m from the lair or was hunting pharples the droid does me very little good.

I'd love to know if there are strategies to improve this, and if my findings are consistent w/ what others have seen.

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RasalTheWise
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:50 am
#17


fotabett wrote:I just bought a harvestor droid with 10 storage and 110% harvesting capability.
Are you saying you bought a droid with a harvester rating of 110 AND ten item storage? You sure about that? The theoretical limit on a harvesting droid with five moduels is 100.




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LingusKhanII
Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:15 am
#18

Ack...should have read the message....

Message Edited by LingusKhanII on 09-17-2004 07:16 AM










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fotabett
Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:27 am
#19






RasalTheWise wrote:




fotabett wrote:I just bought a harvestor droid with 10 storage and 110% harvesting capability.


Are you saying you bought a droid with a harvester rating of 110 AND ten item storage? You sure about that? The theoretical limit on a harvesting droid with five moduels is 100.




Oops, sorry about the mistake-- first harvestor droid I bought. It says it has a 105 and it doesn't have the storage. Kind of dissappointed with it because it eats batteries more than than it harvests.


What is the max for harvesting capability/(rating) AND +10 storage anyhow?





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Jjiaah
Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:47 am
#20






RasalTheWise wrote:




fotabett wrote:I just bought a harvestor droid with 10 storage and 110% harvesting capability.


Are you saying you bought a droid with a harvester rating of 110 AND ten item storage? You sure about that? The theoretical limit on a harvesting droid with five moduels is 100.






There was your answer


Edit: Max modules that can go in any droid is 6, so... 5x Harvest + Item Storage = 100 rating

Message Edited by Jjiaah on 09-17-2004 07:48 AM

Eaca
Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:51 am
#21






h310ise wrote:
I was just speaking w/ my DE today about this since my 88 harvesting rated r3 was significantly underperforming my expectations. Here's my data each taken from 4-6 kills of each creature type, all meat harvesting. My creature harvesting is at 45 (scout hunting 4).

reptilian flier youth
ME - 13
DROID - 16
DIFF +23%

reptilian flier
ME - 27
DROID - 32
DIFF +18

Some kind of antelope (forget the name )
ME - 37
DROID - 42
DIFF +13%

My (rather limited) testing so far shows the droid decreasing effectiveness the larger animal. Unless i was a rifleman wanting to stay covered 60m from the lair or was hunting pharples the droid does me very little good.

I'd love to know if there are strategies to improve this, and if my findings are consistent w/ what others have seen.

llilh de bria





Droid can harvest while you're still at range and still in combat, and it harvests more for you, so you can stick to attacking the lair and send the droid in after the corpses as they drop instead of waiting for the end. And besides, obviously the droid is harvesting more, so why not use it? (I just wish the harvest command was friendable, so you could designate one person to harvest for everybody)


Also if you're using veghash to boost your harvest ability, the droid stacks with that as well for even bigger bonuses, plus if you're working on scout you still get xp from the harvest (not sure if its at a reduced rate or not tho)

Message Edited by Eaca on 09-19-2004 03:53 AM

fotabett
Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:20 am
#22






Kassuff wrote:





Eaca wrote:






h310ise wrote:
I was just speaking w/ my DE today about this since my 88 harvesting rated r3 was significantly underperforming my expectations. Here's my data each taken from 4-6 kills of each creature type, all meat harvesting. My creature harvesting is at 45 (scout hunting 4).

reptilian flier youth
ME - 13
DROID - 16
DIFF +23%

reptilian flier
ME - 27
DROID - 32
DIFF +18

Some kind of antelope (forget the name )
ME - 37
DROID - 42
DIFF +13%

My (rather limited) testing so far shows the droid decreasing effectiveness the larger animal. Unless i was a rifleman wanting to stay covered 60m from the lair or was hunting pharples the droid does me very little good.

I'd love to know if there are strategies to improve this, and if my findings are consistent w/ what others have seen.

llilh de bria





Droid can harvest while you're still at range and still in combat, and it harvests more for you, so you can stick to attacking the lair and send the droid in after the corpses as they drop instead of waiting for the end. And besides, obviously the droid is harvesting more, so why not use it? (I just wish the harvest command was friendable, so you could designate one person to harvest for everybody)


Also if you're using veghash to boost your harvest ability, the droid stacks with that as well for even bigger bonuses, plus if you're working on scout you still get xp from the harvest (not sure if its at a reduced rate or not tho)

Message Edited by Eaca on 09-19-2004 03:53 AM





I was told that when hunting / harvesting with a droid that you should NOT be grouped with it. Larger base harvests, or so I was told. Can anyone confirm this?




You will get about 25% less harvest if only you have your droid grouped (based on limited--3 day experience)This formula may be modified to be less of a loss in percent when grouped with more people; but there is no reason to group with your harvestor droid since it will not be attacked. Though it is nice to see how faraway your droid can get when you ride on mount, speeder or even on foot with but novice scout; in other words, the droid is too slow imo. Make it faster than a swoop; there is no penalty for making the harvestor droid fast-- it's not involved in combat.



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psikobunny
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:41 am
#23








Kassuff wrote:




I was told that when hunting / harvesting with a droid that you should NOT be grouped with it. Larger base harvests, or so I was told. Can anyone confirm this?






You should not group with the droid for the purpose of avoiding drawing agro onto the droid, not for any increase in harvest. There is a Group Harvest penalty, but it doesnt apply to Player/Pet or Droid groupings. If you are grouped with another player, the droid will harvest less,grouped or not,because the base amount is calculated from the Player's ratings



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psikobunny
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:50 am
#24









h310ise wrote:



Some kind of antelope (forget the name )
ME - 37
DROID - 42
DIFF +13%

My (rather limited) testing so far shows the droid decreasing effectiveness the larger animal. Unless i was a rifleman wanting to stay covered 60m from the lair or was hunting pharples the droid does me very little good.

I'd love to know if there are strategies to improve this, and if my findings are consistent w/ what others have seen.

llilh de bria








As was mentioned, Veghash improves the harvest.. However when calculating how "useful" the droid is, you need to think of it in two ways. Extra Units and Missed Harvests. If the 5 extra units the droid gets you is of 100cpu meat, thats 500 credits. a 65k droid pays for itself in less than one trip, and then after that everything is gravy. Next you have to consider Missed harvests, in a long fight, I very often lose a corpse or 3 to poofage, when I dont have the droid. In that case you need to count every unit the droid brings in its favor, since you would have missed it entirely while you were occupied.


[edit- you did tell us your Scouting lvl]

Message Edited by psikobunny on 09-23-2004 11:51 AM



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BarboGato
Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:02 am
#25

Even if the harv droids didn't give a bonus, I still love them. My Rifleman/Ranger alt can kill a target, send the droid off to harvest and start in on the second target.


Every scout/ranger I've demonstrated this to buys a harv droid immediately. The convenience is totally worth it.



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Kassuff
Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:26 pm
#26






Eaca wrote:






h310ise wrote:
I was just speaking w/ my DE today about this since my 88 harvesting rated r3 was significantly underperforming my expectations. Here's my data each taken from 4-6 kills of each creature type, all meat harvesting. My creature harvesting is at 45 (scout hunting 4).

reptilian flier youth
ME - 13
DROID - 16
DIFF +23%

reptilian flier
ME - 27
DROID - 32
DIFF +18

Some kind of antelope (forget the name )
ME - 37
DROID - 42
DIFF +13%

My (rather limited) testing so far shows the droid decreasing effectiveness the larger animal. Unless i was a rifleman wanting to stay covered 60m from the lair or was hunting pharples the droid does me very little good.

I'd love to know if there are strategies to improve this, and if my findings are consistent w/ what others have seen.

llilh de bria





Droid can harvest while you're still at range and still in combat, and it harvests more for you, so you can stick to attacking the lair and send the droid in after the corpses as they drop instead of waiting for the end. And besides, obviously the droid is harvesting more, so why not use it? (I just wish the harvest command was friendable, so you could designate one person to harvest for everybody)


Also if you're using veghash to boost your harvest ability, the droid stacks with that as well for even bigger bonuses, plus if you're working on scout you still get xp from the harvest (not sure if its at a reduced rate or not tho)

Message Edited by Eaca on 09-19-2004 03:53 AM





I was told that when hunting / harvesting with a droid that you should NOT be grouped with it. Larger base harvests, or so I was told. Can anyone confirm this?
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