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Thread: Eclipse Server, Market Forecast for the New Droid Features...

RicetVatol
Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:12 am
#14

Arden,


I actually typed for about 40 mins and erased it all. To sum up my answer to this. The true DE are not concerned with making a million credits a day, they want to make good functional droids and have the ability to make the best available thru experimentation.



Richie
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rj00789
Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:47 am
#15

Do the math folks!


It only takes 110 points to have both master Artisan AND Master DE !! that leaves 140 points for most Full Hybrid Professions and still have 18 points left to dabble!!!This can be Rifleman, Carbineer, Pistoleer, TKM, Pikeman, Fencer, Swordsman ! So, bottom Line weCAN bea crafter/combat character right now. Personally,I kinda liked the idea of a DCclass added to the DE class that used up similar skill points as the above mentioned combat professions! Then just like Nextel its |DONE.!!!!! No extra checkers, no nerfs to pure crafters and our droid invasion is here!Just two credits , from a Holo DE, turned REAL DE


Peyote, Master DE/ Artisan, Novice Fencer/ Novice Medic/ Novice Scout Flurry

Kollos
Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:23 am
#16






rj00789 wrote:

It only takes 110 points to have both master Artisan AND Master DE !! that leaves 140 points for most Full Hybrid Professions and still have 18 points left to dabble!!!This can be Rifleman, Carbineer, Pistoleer, TKM, Pikeman, Fencer, Swordsman ! So, bottom Line weCAN bea crafter/combat character right now. Personally,I kinda liked the idea of a DCclass added to the DE class that used up similar skill points as the above mentioned combat professions! Then just like Nextel its |DONE.!!!!! No extra checkers, no nerfs to pure crafters and our droid invasion is here!Just two credits , from a Holo DE, turned REAL DE


Peyote, Master DE/ Artisan, Novice Fencer/ Novice Medic/ Novice Scout Flurry



Exactly. But some people just don't get it.




Kollos Orcslayer : Master Droid Engineer : Master Artisan

Droids by Kollos -840, 3980 Seacht, Naboo (NW of Keren)
Bounty Hunter Droids by Kollos 4924, 6107 550m SW of Kaadara
Vehicles and Master Artisan Components also available
paying 250k/point for Droid Assembly Skill Tapes, minimum of +4

Shian_Tavkin
Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:54 pm
#17

/target Kollos


/sniffle


/emote Bully


Just so you get your way eh? ah well it doesnt matter cos All is Well. I'm a happy DE and the world is turning out as it should. Tra La la. Can I have another blue pill please? Thankyou! Now all is looking much better isn't it?


I really think you and Jenden should have babies together...or at least go through the motions of trying with each other...bound to be a fruitful experience.


J/K really






Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Kollos
Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:40 pm
#18






Shian_Tavkin wrote:

J/K really




Yeah, I know you secretly love me.


There's a whopping one change that I argue against strenuously. So it's not about me getting my way, it's about them not getting their way. Pick any of the other options that people here have proposed and I'll still be happy. Funny how the people who support that one option can't think of any way to argue the point other than to attack me.


What baffles me is when the people who are trying to ruin things and get their way whine that those of us who are happy with what we have and where we are going are the spoilsports.



Kollos Orcslayer : Master Droid Engineer : Master Artisan

Droids by Kollos -840, 3980 Seacht, Naboo (NW of Keren)
Bounty Hunter Droids by Kollos 4924, 6107 550m SW of Kaadara
Vehicles and Master Artisan Components also available
paying 250k/point for Droid Assembly Skill Tapes, minimum of +4

Shian_Tavkin
Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:08 pm
#19



Ohh Kollos. you misunderstand me totally. If I was going to attack you then you would definitely know about it.


If I say J/K I mean it..where is the sense of humour?


The only reason I no longer argue any point is that it's all already set in stone (Oh and TK asked me to be a good girl)


As to your bafflement, I'm sure the majority of those living in the stone age were happy, but some of those were not, thus leading humanity (the profession in this case) to progress. I am baffled why anyone wants to retain a status quo based on an unfinished profession, especially one that had its only combat droid nerfed in the beginning (temporarily so it was said). You, like all Americans, like to call 'whine' on anyone who chooses not to agree with you. Nevermind, thats your way and I respect the very visible difference in culture.


Interesting that you say your fight is all about preventing others from getting their way, yet you claim its not about you getting your way? Ahh well, I'm sure that makes some sense from your perspective.


Meantime, in the real world, the wheels are already turning, so it really doesn't matter what either of us thinks now does it?


Have a blue pill, TK has a store of them if you have run out, damned Spicer that he is I think his secret spy Gnort has a supplier in the underworld.





Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 02-22-2004 08:11 PM

Message Edited by Shian_Tavkin on 02-22-2004 08:14 PM



Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Gribnitz
Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:03 pm
#20






Kollos wrote:





Shian_Tavkin wrote:

J/K really





Yeah, I know you secretly love me.




Your right on most points, but on this one your wrong. She actually loves me. Don't you know Humans and Rodians have the cutest babies ?? Those big pink noses are just so cute to pinch.




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Kollos
Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:55 pm
#21






Shian_Tavkin wrote:



Ohh Kollos. you misunderstand me totally. If I was going to attack you then you would definitely know about it.


If I say J/K I mean it..where is the sense of humour?


Humor systems are fully operational and online. @ Sodan. I didn't take your post as an attack. The bulk of my post was not directed at you, which I thought was apparent. My apologies for not making that clear enough.


The only reason I no longer argue any point is that it's all already set in stone (Oh and TK asked me to be a good girl)


As to your bafflement, I'm sure the majority of those living in the stone age were happy, but some of those were not, thus leading humanity (the profession in this case) to progress. I am baffled why anyone wants to retain a status quo based on an unfinished profession, especially one that had its only combat droid nerfed in the beginning (temporarily so it was said). You, like all Americans, like to call 'whine' on anyone who chooses not to agree with you. Nevermind, thats your way and I respect the very visible difference in culture.


I don't want to maintain the status quo - like everyone else here I'm pushing for improvements. There's just one particular change that I consider severely detrimental to our beloved profession, so I fight against that one change. You, and others, seem to have locked onto that one particular change as the only possible hope for all Droid Engineers everywhere, even though implementing it will radically change the way that all of us are already used to playing.


Aside: What makes you think I'm an American? Just because I'm not playing on one of the European servers? Not making any rash assumptions there, are you? More to the point, what does my nationality have to do with anything? Or is that just another attempt at a personal attack to draw attention away from the real issue?


Interesting that you say your fight is all about preventing others from getting their way, yet you claim its not about you getting your way? Ahh well, I'm sure that makes some sense from your perspective.


ROFLMAO. You're the one who tried to make this personal and brought up the entire subject of who's getting whose way. Which should be irrelevant, but somehow you felt it needed to be brought up.


I really don't expect you to understand; you've already demonstrated that inability to me in the past. Somehow it makes sense to you to lambast me for arguing my point, yet it's perfectly okay for others to argue theirs. It's also apparently okay for them to make personal attacks against me, but it's not okay for me to defend myself from those personal attacks. With me, it's about getting my way. With them, it's because their valiantly defending the faith. Or something equally ludicrous.


Meantime, in the real world, the wheels are already turning, so it really doesn't matter what either of us thinks now does it?


It still matters a great deal what all of us think, even Arden. We all pay to play the game and so we all have voices that the Devs need to hear. I value your opinion and Arden's too. What I don't value from either of you is your tendencies to make personal attacks when things don't go your way.


Keep chowing down on those happy pills. Maybe they'll eventually have an effect.










Kollos Orcslayer : Master Droid Engineer : Master Artisan

Droids by Kollos -840, 3980 Seacht, Naboo (NW of Keren)
Bounty Hunter Droids by Kollos 4924, 6107 550m SW of Kaadara
Vehicles and Master Artisan Components also available
paying 250k/point for Droid Assembly Skill Tapes, minimum of +4

Drashk
Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:32 pm
#22

I'm more than likely going to earn a few flames for stating my personal opinion, but Droid Engineer is a crafting profession and should always be a crafting profession. Turning DE into a hybrid crafting/combat profession would be a mightly large mistake that would result in death of the profession as a Crafter/Merchant that many know and love. I , like many others, became DE not because of the hopes to use 'Uber' combat droids, but rather to have the ability to build and sale all types of Droids. Turning DE into a hybrid profession, as fun as it may sound to the combat types, would over balance the crafter-to-combat ratio that we see. I do believe that DE, as well as BE, should have a bonus to our 'handling' abilites, but I do not think that there is justification to say that DE should become a hybrid profession. As Kollos stated eariler, wanting to make DE a hybrid profession due to the previously unfixed bugs is not reason to completely alter the way the profession was designed.


I honestly believe that the best course of action that development team could take, for DE,over the next 10 months is...



  1. Fix current bugs

  2. Add additional modules

  3. Add Experimentation revamp

  4. Add module/chassis or chassis functions

  5. Fix new bugs

  6. Give DE a slight combat advantage (5-10 levels) (6 months from now)

  7. Increased number of Droid Chassis (8 months from now)

  8. Addition of Droid Commander Profession (Christmas time)

I actually made the suggestion to the DEV team, a few months back, to steer the focus away from the Droid Commander profession and rather focus on fixing the DE profession first, through additional modules/functions and bug fixes. IFDE issues were handled properly, I feel that the later addition of the Droid Commander Profession would be a great benefit to our profession, but that is just my personal opinion






Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
ArdenStarmariner
Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:12 am
#23

Drashk, I think we're all VERY aware of your personal bias. The very reason you need to be replaced as correspondent.




Arden Starmariner - Master Jedi, Smugglers' Alliance Privateer Ace - Eclipse.
Nemok Starmariner - Elder Commando - Eclipse.
ArdenStarmariner
Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:15 am
#24

Drashk,

Your option #8 pretty much proves my point. Still gonna ram that Droid Commander down our throats dispite the overwhelming opposition to having the Bio-Engineer/Creature Handler disaster forced on all of us. Your biased beyond any hope of representing the DE community and its time for you to go.




Arden Starmariner - Master Jedi, Smugglers' Alliance Privateer Ace - Eclipse.
Nemok Starmariner - Elder Commando - Eclipse.
demosthenes810
Mon Feb 23, 2004 6:39 am
#25

Arden, if the doctor/doctor model made ANY sense for DE whatsoever, I'd support it...because it would make me rich. It doesn't. Somebody is biased...it isn't out correspondent. All you EVER seem to care about at all is that stupid doctor/doctor model idea...if a change doesn't include that you are against it. Drashk at least is keeping his mind open to everything...you're just getting pissy because your little thought didn't have the majority behind it, nor does it make even the slightest bit of sense.

Not to mention, we're DEs...if all you want is to sell combat crap, go weaponsmith...DEs are about nifty droids, not UB3R L33T combat, soooo K000000000L!!!!!!!!!!!!


heh.
Kollos
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:43 am
#26






ArdenStarmariner wrote:
Drashk, I think we're all VERY aware of your personal bias. The very reason you need to be replaced as correspondent.






Hey n00b, Drashk has demonstrated over and over that he's quite capable of representing what the majority of Droid Engineers want even when it contradicts his own personal opinion.


I didn't even vote for Drashk as correspondent because I disagreed with him too often. However, he has demonstrated to me that he can support the most popular opinion even when it is opposed to his own, so I now support him 100%.


Good luck with your campaign to get Drashk replaced. You and your little cult are the only ones who don't support him. The rest of us think he's doing a great job.




Kollos Orcslayer : Master Droid Engineer : Master Artisan

Droids by Kollos -840, 3980 Seacht, Naboo (NW of Keren)
Bounty Hunter Droids by Kollos 4924, 6107 550m SW of Kaadara
Vehicles and Master Artisan Components also available
paying 250k/point for Droid Assembly Skill Tapes, minimum of +4

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