Droid Engineer Archive

The reason specific resources are involved are to make it a bit more challenging. And also a way to limit certain things. Some more specific resources are rare and don't spawn all that often meaning the market doesn't get flooded. And usually when the resource is more specific you can sell it for more or if you end up being one of the few who may have harvested it (not likely as most people would notice) you can reap the rewards from that too.

If you don't like the fact specific resources are used you certainly won't like being Armoursmith or Weaponsmith or even Doctor for that matter.

The biggest problem is that they're so fricken annoying to build. All the little subcomponents and all that.

Plus the fact that every sale is a custom order, nearly. Meh, that's why I'm retired

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StevieBUKDroidEngineer wrote:

I never said it wasn't worth it due to not making money. Since becoming MDE I haven't really bothered making many droids. I made a entertainment droid with 5 effects and the woman was most pleased with it, especially 'cause I showed her how to name the droid. I gave her a free customization kit and battery. My point was, to make the later droids, the R3 etc is just so much hassle. Having to go and survey for the specific steel these require. I am a Master Artisan and extract all my own minerals. My point was its just a pain making the later droids due to having to have 'specific' resources and not just any old steel. And am I correct in thinking, that the power droids need a Architect part??? Why?

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you are right, it is a bit of a pain. but the profession you compared against is far worse. the packs that doctors use to buff characters (the good doctor's anyway that use high quality buff packs)require morerare resources than most everything in the DE tree (except for maybe the highest level droid repair kits). similarly, all crafting professions have rare resource requirements for their master level items. it is a bit of a pain, as you say, but it's the same pain that every crafting profession in the game deals with and has nothing to do with being a DE.

You are correct that the power droid requires an architect part. that one is a real pain in the butt, but in this particular case, that droid is mostly useless so it doesn't much matter. :-) But you ask why. The answer is that every crafting profession has items that require components from other professions. The architect crafting stations require DE storage compartments for example. DE does have it a little harder than the others in that respect, but the only thing in DE that is out of wack when compared against other professions is the degree to which DE depends upon the Master Artisan electronics components. But you haven't complained about that.

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StevieBUKDroidEngineer wrote:

To the last post. Hmm I guess and reason i haven't moaned about Master Artisan having droid parts is probably 'cause i'm Master Artisan myself so don't have to worry.

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I understand that. Most of us are. My point was that in terms of the resource requirements and sub-components, we are the same as all the other professions with the exception of those Master Artisan components. So you'll see all the same issues no matter which crafting profession you chose.

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Straker_Atrella wrote:

People don't sell med droids and such for 2k or even 4k because they don't want to rip people off, they do it because they don't really think about it.

If you need a Med Droid, you are either a Doctor, or want to heal wounds or such on their combatent. A Doctor can make millions just selling buffs for 10-15k. A combatent can make 1 million credits in 3 hours (one buff session.) Money is not hard to get, sure millions may be, but 100k isn't.

The thing that people forget is that 2k Med droid will be there FOREVER. They wont ever need a new one. They seem to think that by charging 2k a droid, they will sell more. What they don't realize is that in many cases if somebody goes to a vendor looknig for a med droid, they would buy it if it was 2k, 20k or 40k. Spending money on something that will be with you FOREVER, is not that big of a deal.

Have you ever figured out the CPU costs on Weapons, Armor, or food? Obscenly high. Yet people pay it, even though they wear out.

Before you price your droid, remember it wont wear out, and the person will make tons and tons of money by using it. I shake my head when I see people practically giving droids away.

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One more thing to remember is that a person of any crafting profession should be sure their prices stay above the point at which it would be more profitable to sell the raw resources rather than the droid. If you can make 3, 5, or even 10 cpu on a resource like copper, why use that copper to make a droid and then sell the droid for 2-6k? You're losing money. Your time is also worth something. And if you're only doing it for fun, then you might as well give them away for free.

One more thing about this "ripping people off" business. I'm not sure if I should take offense or not, at the implication that unless I sell my droids dirt cheap, I'm "ripping people off," or that people who sell droids for 2k do it because they don't want to rip people off. Let it be made clear that if someone is selling droids for less than the resources would sell for, it's a good bet that they're not some swell guy spreading good cheer and smiles. They're just someone who doesn't really know what they're doing.


Rippen

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StevieBUKDroidEngineer wrote:

You shouldn't take offence what I meant is some people, put the medical modules in more expensive chassis so they can justify the high price. And saying that you'd be loosing money making the droids instead of selling the resources isn't strikly true. For example. If the extractor has already paid for itselfs. Then say you just put in 3k for maintance and 3k power then and that lasts for 2 days say, then the amount of cooper you'd extract with just that 3k that you've paid would mean your not really loosing money. And its finding the people to buy the resources to.

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No, you're reaching here, and frankly I sense a little resentment about high prices in your post. Obviously you're new, don't have much money, and don't understand what's going on. No DE goes through the DE grind just so he can find ways to gouge customers for a few extra credits by doing petty things, like putting certain modules into certain chassis. DEs put the same modules into different chassis to offer their customers some variety, and certain chassis simply cost more to make than others.

And yes, if you take resources and use them to make medical and other droids priced at 2k, then (depending on the type of droid) you're losing money you otherwise would have made selling the resource. Translation: you're spending your own money to give things to other people. I'm not going to take time to explain that further.

A little advice to a new player: Just because you don't have very much money, please don't go around expecting things to be given to you cheap, and getting angry at another player when they aren't. Sadly, many new players act that way.


Rippen

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StevieBUKDroidEngineer wrote:

To the last post. Hmm I guess and reason i haven't moaned about Master Artisan having droid parts is probably 'cause i'm Master Artisan myself so don't have to worry.

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Honestly I can't see how you could do DE without also going Master Artisan. you need to have the master level items for just about everything you make. I just like being able to craft my own Bikes as well.. Wish we could make parts for the vehicles as welll. Stuff to hop them up.