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Thread: New TC patch notes up! (3-14-05)

Straker_Atrella
Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:35 pm
#14






sinisterpropoise wrote:

I was personally okay with having to travel to the vendor as long as I knew they had it. What I hated was doing a planet search and finding a vendor that was empty or didn't have what I was specifically looking for.


This shouldn't be hard to implement, should it?








No, that is exactly what a majority of us wanted. Just a list of vendors with waypoints that you knew for sure had your item.


At this point, it really seems like it's a losing battle, you can't imagine how muchwe fought when the idea first came out. We fought hard. Many logical posts were made about why it was bad. Then it came out in this current form anyway. Everything that could be said was said before, aparrently it wasn't enough.


I will be shocked if this doesn't go through.




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Straker_Atrella
Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:24 am
#15

I'm sure they fought it when it first was suggested as well. Yet here it back is again. They knew we would resist it, they expected it.


I'm not saying roll over and stop fighting, but if they were listening, it wouldn't be here in this form again.


Well fight the good fight, going out of town for a couple of days. Maybe I will come back and find out that most of my Merchant skills are not worthless.



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*Straker Atrella: Dark Jedi * Atrella's Wench: Master Droid Engineer / Artisan / Scout / Merchant * Dark Vortex: Ranger / Rifleman * Havana:Musician / Dancer / Image Design * Enigmatica : Doctor / Swordsman* CrazyEyes: Role playing BH.
ASHRID
Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:17 am
#16

I dont have the time to play on test anymore so I wont see the changes until they go live


That said, as a buyer I'm not happy - it already takes me ages to look through the entire galaxy for the items I'm searching for (which unfortunately includes the 'generic item' catagory) - I dread to think how long its now going to take once every joes vendor in the galaxy is listed up there as well


As a seller I'm not happy about my loyal customer base disappearing to some grinder/lowballer and never coming back - especially since my guild have done nicely in generating lots of business just outside of Mos Eisley (i.e. we arent near Theed/Coronet)


Of course part of this problem is that many items on vendors are listed under the wrong catagory (i.e. generic item) or not under a catagory at all (Gambling tables for example are under 'Terminals' which doesnt even exist!!!!!)
RasalTheWise
Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:16 pm
#17


Straker_Atrella wrote:
I'm sure they fought it when it first was suggested as well. Yet here it back is again.


Well, let's face it...we all knew it was going to come back in some iteration. We just need to make sure it's acceptable for the majority.




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Akkori
Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:59 pm
#18

It doesn't matter if *WE* find it satifactory for the masses. The Devs are going to do whatever they want to appease the people who only fight, and complain that merchant are just greedy.



Odano Akkori
First Mayor of Tempest
Jaxian Bay
Elder DE, Rifleman, Swordsman

Jedi will never be a starting profession...Looted items and quest items will never be better then crafted items, this is not a loot based game...CH will return shortly...CH and BE will not be back in game...Rangers are getting their revamp next!...The stealth system will not be changing in the spy expertise...Need any more examples of things the devs said that did not hold true?
RasalTheWise
Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:26 am
#19


Akkori wrote:
The Devs are going to do whatever they want to appease the people who only fight, and complain that merchant are just greedy.



If that were true, they wouldn't have yanked the first iteration.




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RasalTheWise
Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:33 pm
#20



Akkori wrote:
Haven't you noticed? This is the SAME proposal they "yanked". The only thing they got rid of is remote retrieval, and hsving the prices as a sortable column. You can still see the price, just examine the item. Its 98% of the proposal so many people condemned before.



I'd call that different.

Look, we're both ticked that this change is imminent. All I'm saying is I'm not giving up hope until the fat lady sings. Even if it goes live, if we continue to throw up a stink about it, they will HAVE to change it. Keep the faith, bro.




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Jenden
Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:38 pm
#21

indeed, the fight isn't over yet...



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Jenden
Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:26 pm
#22

Slight update. The buy option is gone, haven't checked myself but I believe prices are still there. Doesn't really help the ad barker droids, and I'm not sure how much it helps the merchant if prices are still available, but its something.



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JavelinCatcher
Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:55 pm
#23

Prices are available, they can be sorted under the "Bid Column" (just like normal bazzar listings).



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Akkori
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:59 am
#24

Haven't you noticed? This is the SAME proposal they "yanked". The only thing they got rid of is remote retrieval, and hsving the prices as a sortable column. You can still see the price, just examine the item. Its 98% of the proposal so many people condemned before.



Odano Akkori
First Mayor of Tempest
Jaxian Bay
Elder DE, Rifleman, Swordsman

Jedi will never be a starting profession...Looted items and quest items will never be better then crafted items, this is not a loot based game...CH will return shortly...CH and BE will not be back in game...Rangers are getting their revamp next!...The stealth system will not be changing in the spy expertise...Need any more examples of things the devs said that did not hold true?
AudioOrgana
Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:04 am
#25






JavelinCatcher wrote:

Prices are available, they can be sorted under the "Bid Column" (just like normal bazzar listings).







I never say this (you can search my posts, LOL) but if this goes live like that I quit.


Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that it would kill the economy. People spout half-truths like, "It's like real life, where you can get on the internet and know the prices of everything!"


That's not true, there are nearly infinite levels of knowledge - yet none of them is this "perfect" knowledge this system would give.


This would ruin the entire economic mini-game of SWG only to cater to the "I want everything I want now with zero effort" combat crowd who resents every red credit they give us.


Seriously. If they do it like this it will be one sad, sad day - the most immersive, amazing, organic system ever devised for an MMO will go out the window.


AO

AudioOrgana
Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:09 am
#26






sinisterpropoise wrote:

I was personally okay with having to travel to the vendor as long as I knew they had it. What I hated was doing a planet search and finding a vendor that was empty or didn't have what I was specifically looking for.


This shouldn't be hard to implement, should it?








And see, this is what just about EVERYONE wants.


The lazy people who hate crafters will NEVER be happy with anything that doesn't get them what they want, the absolute cheapest possible, served to them on a red-ruby platter. I mean, listen to some of them - they say, "Without instant delivery, this is useless!" What a crock!


Most people would be happy to travel wherever (in this age of JTL and 1-minute shuttle trips) to visit a store that they know has what they want.


Listing on the bazaar, without prices, does this. With prices, the economy will simply dry up and crafting will become about as popular as Image Designing.


Honestly, you might as well just sell raw resources to an NPC and have everyone buy off NPC vendors - the same effect will be achieved this way.


AO


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