Droid Engineer Archive

Any word on creatures suffering the same fait? Meaning BE pets. Maybe both are suffering the same problem. If not another slap in the face of DEs.

Maybe devs want to avoid having a new market with "pre-pub" stuff and limiting this by not converting deeds. It sucks for current DEs but it might be better than having new/coming DEs never have a chance to compete against current DEs which had stockpiled pre-18 droids.

If I understand those conversion rules then all combat droids with other modules than only combat will get converted to max combat/armor. So those tank droids with only 1 combat module and maxed out autorepair for example will get a boost.

Now I just want my droids to pwn SBDs like the R2 did in Ep3 (I love that scene - that is a bada* droid lol)

Well I for one will not be delisting the 100+ combat-capable droids I currently have on my vendors (and that's a low number because I haven't crafted a combat-capable droid since the CU due to the armour bug). Instead I shall be sending an email to anyone who purchases one explaining the problem and encouraging them to submit both a /bug report and post in the publish bug thread. SOE spent weeks and opened up dedicated threads (was there even a dedicated forum?) on the conversion of weapons, armour and loot in the CU publish. The least they can do for us is to hold back this part of the publish until they can get it right. Hmm, I wonder if I should mail my customer list (1000+ names) and ask all of them to submit tickets too.

EnigmaBSc

I am glad I just ran out of combat droids..

Well hell.

I just finished a run of 100 Adv Probie Combat MedBots with everything a medic could want on them...

except a combat mod which it didn't need since probes had their own innate blasters.

Crap.

Probably a stupid question but I'll just check that the patch didnt develop a last minute hickup

I'm assuming this only effects pre-patch deeds and not post-patch deeds?

Message Edited by ASHRID on 06-15-2005 02:36 PM

post patch do fight if they have a combat module based on the total CL of them, just have the shifting armour issue (falls from up to 60% down to 11% max)

This is simply amazing considering all the dev feedback and testing that was done with this massive DE change. It's nice having something this major happen without the curtesy ofa reach-around.

Droid Health vs Combat Rating All droidchassishave the same base Health ratings, that are linked to the CL.Experimentation on the droid deed does not have any effect on any shown stat, including Health.

CL 1 = 108 Health
CL 5 = 594 Health
CL 10 = 1715 Health
CL15 = 2514 Health
CL 20 = 2923 Health
CL25 =3333 Health
CL 30 = 3742 Health

1. Installing Droid Armor
   
2. Installing Combat Modules
   
3. Combining both.

Armor Modules provide a bonus of 5CL per level of droid armor.

Droid Armor Level 1 = CL5
Droid Armor Level2 = CL10
Droid Armor Level3 = CL15
Droid Armor Level4 = CL20
Droid Armor Level5 = CL25
Droid Armor Level6 = CL30

Combat Modules provide 5CL per every 55 points of Combat Rating.

CL5 = 1 - 55 Combat Rating
CL10 = 56 - 110 Combat Rating
CL15 = 111 - 165 Combat Rating
CL20 = 166 - 220 Combat Rating
CL25 = 221 -275 Combat Rating
CL30 = 276 + Combat Rating

You can stack the effects of Combat Modules and Droid Armor together, inorder to gain the CL30 Rating. Simply add the bonus of the Armor Module to the bonus of the Combat Module.

Armor Effectiveness

Armor Effectiveness is influnced by both the Armor Modules that are installed and the number of Combat Modules that are installed. Armor Modules have a direct 1k per level ratio. (IE Level 1 = 1k and Level 6 = 6k)

Combat Modules provide 0.5kof Armor Effectiveness per 55 points of Combat Rating, up to 3k, or 276 Combat Rating.

Armor Effectiveness can be stacked to provide a maximum rating of 9k.

Unfortunately, the Armor Effectiveness rating changes after the first time that te droid is called. To reproduce this effect, call the droid from a deed and store it. Call the droid a second time and inspect the datapad listings. The Droid will update to the below listed stats. Armor Effectiveness that is solely from Droid Armor will reverty toa 0 rating. Armor Effectiveness that is given by a combat module will revert to the following

CL10 = 0
CL15 = 0
CL20 = 20
CL25 = 783
CL30 = 1217

Combat Rating

The Combat Rating is currently not having any effect on the final build of a droid. The Combat Rating is no longer showing up in the Droid Deed crafting window, nor is it showing up on the final droid. The Damage output of a droid is completely based upon its CL rating.

CL 10
45 - 240 Damage
38to Hit / 38 Defense Value

CL 20
50 - 250
67to Hit /67 Defense Value

CL 25
56 - 268
76to Hit /76 Defense Value

CL 30
61- 284
81to Hit /81 Defense Value

Attack Speed

The Attack Speed rating appears to be MIA. A Droid no longer lists that attack speed that it has.

Droid Conversion from the datapad

Combat Droids appear to have been converted to the maximum damage and armor, regardless of what the actual values were. As long as the droid has either a Armor Module or Combat Module present, it will gain the maximum rating available. (IE 1 Combat Module pre publish will produce a CL30 Droid with the highest damage listing.)

The following will be the stats on all pre-exisiting droids, according to the short time that the code was on Test Center Prime. Since I didn't have a droid on TC-Corby, I have no other data to work wtih.

CL 30
Health3742
Armor Effectiveness 1217
Damage 61- 284
to Hit 81
Defense Value 81

Hmm, this sounds vaguely familiar to anyone ??? Seems like we're like armorsmiths now, totally pointless to be a 12 point smith with the best resources. And SOE continues to dumb the game down.

So basically all I have to do is slap any old armor 6 module and any combat module in and I'll get the same stats each time for a CL 30 droid.

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Sandsifter wrote:

So basically all I have to do is slap any old armor 6 module and any combat module in and I'll get the same stats each time for a CL 30 droid.

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Currently that is exactly true as long as the droid has been stored and recalled, a first call droid will have better armour stat with more armour/combat modules.

Your kidding... ugh. Well we got higher combat droids... Just got the AS crafting nerf as well... UGH, why is crafting being dumbed down? No reason to get good material... no reason to be a 12pt...

How do we explain all this to new customers who ask about combat droids?

Quoting Nancy Kerrigan... "WHY WHY WHY???!!!!"

Well I managed to get a confimation out of Tiggs in Live Chat that there is at least one Dev who plays a Droid Engineer. Which just leaves me /boggle at this patch.

EnigmaBSc

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EnigmaBSc wrote:
Well I managed to get a confimation out of Tiggs in Live Chat that there is at least one Dev who plays a Droid Engineer. Which just leaves me /boggle at this patch.

EnigmaBSc

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Big deal. How many other toons does he have? I've got characters all over the servers that I may touch upon once in awhile. Does that make me a pro in the fields of Creature Handler because I have a toon that I play occassionally? Unlesshe isan activefull time DE with a client base, then its moot. Atleast armorsmiths had a dev stop by and explain a few things. Why was this even neccessary? Heck. let's just get rid of resource spawns all together since stats will have no relevance in the future. We'll just have nodes to go harvest and cross our fingers for that rare blackenedironore! Oh wrong game.

Message Edited by scot740 on 06-15-2005 07:12 AM