Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: Centralized Droid Issues

Gorantoth
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:55 pm
#144
Thanks guys. I'm not really going anywhere, just stopping the thread updates. After a year of going through all the posts looking for new bugs or bugs that have been fixed, I really need a break. I'll still be lurking about, listening to everything going on.



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Steel-Rat
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:41 pm
#145
I find it pretty ridiculous that some components require an extremely specific named resource, like Dantooine <name>Fiberplast, instead of the normal resource <name> one normallty sees.


And has anyone on Bria seen Lidium Extrusive Ore recently? It would be nice to make a run of level 6 storage modules so I can free up a slot on some models. I've seen references that some folks have NEVER seen this resource on their server. Wonder if that's an oversight. It's not like we're talking about an item that's going to unbalance the game....


As a new MDE I understand that the DE profession I'm seeing is probably much better than it was 6 months ago. But the fact remains there are some incredibly inconvenient bugs that have been there since launch, as some say, that crucially and adversely affect the profession.


I for one will not be paying for JTL until the bugs are fixed, and no new ones created as a result.



Steel Rat
Master Heavy Swordsman, Master DE, Master Artisan
President and CEO of RatGerg Enterprises LTD, Tatooine (Bria)
Drashk
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:42 am
#146

This thread is dedicated to Gorantoth for the countless hours that he has devoted to keeping this thread alive.


This list is updated as needed and is meant to supplement the work done by the current correspondant and provide an idea of where this profession currently stands. Please read it over and provide any information you have regarding any of these issues, or any new issues you may have discovered.


In order to keep this thread accurate and up-to-date, please post any comments on matters of concern. I have tried to personally varify each of the bugs or uncertainties on the previous list, but I may have missed something. Many thanks to everyone that has posted on pervious versions of this thread.


With the latest version of this thread, I have decided to completely change how things are listed, in order to give the DEV team a complete run down of every single known issue. The Issues thread will be broken down into seperate sections that deal all aspects of the process. Bare with me, it is quite lengthy.


Section 1 deals with all known Droid User issues. These issues include all known droid use issues, from the stand point of a droid owner and the Droid Engineer. This section includes a number of 'improvements' that should be added in order to make the use of droids more intuitive.


Section 2 deals with Droid Engineer Schematic Issues. I have broken down and listed each and every schematic, in order, that a Master Droid Engineer has access to.


Section 3 deals with General Droid Engineer Crafting Issues. These Issues include all known Droid Engineer related issues including Mandolorian armor crafting and other droid related schematics.


Section 4 deals with community suggestions and recommendations to help fine tune the DE profession.


  • Light Blue signifies all section headings.

  • Yellow signifies all sub headings.

  • Red signifies all issues entries.

  • Violet signifies all Examples.

  • Green signifes all items that appear to be working as intended.

Message Edited by Drashk on 07-23-2005 10:20 AM





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Drashk
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:43 am
#147


Section 2
Schematic Issues




The following section of the Centralized Droid Issues thread will cover all known issues that are found in the Droid Engineer crafting process. Due to the 60k character limit, on the Lithium forums, this post has been broken down into sub sections. The following schematics are listed in order, as a Master Droid Engineer would see them in Step 1/6 of the crafting process, next to a Private Crafting Station, using a W/G/D Crafting tool.






Component




Combat-Capable Socket Cluster


  • Issue -


    1. This Cluster has a default Structure Maintenance Rating of 0. When crafting an Advanced R3 Unit, with a Structure Maintenance module installed, the last clusted to be placed in the droid will override the Structure Maintenance Rating.


      • Example - Two Combat-Capable Socket Clusters are installed into an Adv R3 Unit. Cluster 1 has a Structure Maintenance Module installed, giving the Cluster a Structure Maintenance Module Rating of 9. Cluster 2 does not have a Structure Maintenance Module installed, so it has a default rating of 0. If Cluster 1 is installed into the droid, and then Cluster 2 is installed, the droid will end up with a Structure Maintenance Module rating of 0. If Cluster 2 is installed and then Cluster 1 is installed, the droid will end up with a Structure Maintenance Module rating of 9.

    2. Structure is misspelled in the Step 3/6, Step 5/6, and Step 6/6 of the Crafting windows and is also misspelled when the cluster is completed. Structure is spelled Stucture in all 4 instances. This misspell appears in the information window in the line 'Stucture Maintenance Rating'

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The intial Mechanism Quality rating is based upon the Mechanism Quality rating of all modules installed into the Combat-Capable Socket Cluster. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    5. Due to Issues 3 and 4 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




General Droid Module Socket Cluster


  • Issue -
    •

    1. Structure is misspelled in the Step 3/6, Step 5/6, and Step 6/6 of the Crafting windows and is also misspelled when the cluster is completed. Structure is spelled Stucture in all 4 instances. This misspell appears in the information window in the line 'Stucture Maintenance Rating'

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The intial Mechanism Quality rating is based upon the Mechanism Quality rating of all modules installed into the Combat-Capable Socket Cluster. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    4. Due to Issues 2 and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic




Droid Component




Advanced Capacitor Discharge Unit

  • No Known Issues




Advanced Diagnostic Circuit


  • No Known Issues




Advanced Droid Brain


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous.

    3. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Advanced Droid Frame Unit


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Advanced Droid Motive System


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Advanced Redundant Power Supply


  • No Known Issues




Advanced Repair Unit Casing


  • No Known Issues




Advanced Unit Delivery Cartridge


  • No Known Issues




Auto-Repair Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.




Binary Load Lifter ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.

    5. In Step 6/6 of the crafting process, there are 2 Color boxes. Color 2 has 64 different colors. Color 1 has 2 colors - White and White. Neither color in Color 1 appears to change the apperance of the Binary Load Lifter ADV Droid Chassis



Capacitor Discharge Unit


  • No Known Issues




Clothing Droid Crafting Station Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Many non-Forum reading Droid Engineers confuse the Mechanism Quality listing with the Function Rating that is listed on Architect crafted Private Crafting Stations.

    4. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Creature Harvester Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.



Detonation Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.




Diagnostic Circuit


  • No Known Issues




Droid Armor Module 1


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.




Droid Armor Module 2


  • Issue -


    1. See Droid Armor Module 1 entry




Droid Armor Module 3


  • Issue -


    1. See Droid Armor Module 1 entry




Droid Armor Module 4


  • Issue -


    1. See Droid Armor Module 1 entry




Droid Armor Module 5


  • Issue -


    1. See Droid Armor Module 1 entry




Droid Armor Module 6


  • Issue -


    1. See Droid Armor Module 1 entry




Droid Brain


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Droid Combat Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 2/6 of the crafting process, two lines of experimentation are listed - Experimental Effectiveness and Misc. During crafting Step 3/6 and 5/6, the Misc experimentation line is not listed.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.




Droid Motive


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Droid Repair Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic. Issues 4 and 5 are additonal issues with this schematic, related to the crafting process.

    4. The same resource requirements are listed for both experimentation lines of this schematic; however during crafting Step 3/6, the Experimental Effectiveness starts out as half of the Experimental Durabliity, which is correct according to the resource weights.

    5. During Step 5/6, of the crafting process, experimentation to the Experimental Effectiveness line is not behaving correctly. In order to gain full experimentation of the Experimental Effectiveness line, the Droid Engineer must have 12 points of experimentation. Only using 10 experimentation points will leave 2 experimentation boxes. Unusual experimentation results will also occur, which appear to be related. At random points, better successes will result in the Mechanism Quality decreasing, instead of increasing like is should.




Droid Sensor


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Droid Storage Compartment


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.

    3. No form of quality rating is listed for this crafted product. Architect crafted Private Crafting Stations are directly effected by the quality of this product. Not having a quality rating listed on the crafted product has negative repercussions on sales.




Effects Module (Avian)


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Effects Module (Confetti)


  • Issue -


    1. See Effects Module (Avian) entry




Effects Module (Dancing Jawa)


  • Issue -


    1. See Effects Module (Avian) entry




Effects Module (Electric Fog)


  • Issue -


    1. See Effects Module (Avian) entry




Effects Module (Foam)


  • Issue -


    1. See Effects Module (Avian) entry




Effects Module (Mind Bloom)


  • Issue -


    1. See Effects Module (Avian) entry




Food Droid Crafting Station Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Many non-Forum reading Droid Engineers confuse the Mechanism Quality listing with the Function Rating that is listed on Architect crafted Private Crafting Stations.

    4. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Geeky Droid Personality Chip


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




LE Repair ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic




Level 1 Droid Data Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor. Issues 4 and 5 are additonal issues with this schematic, related to the crafting process.

    4. The same resource requirements are listed for both experimentation lines of this schematic; however during crafting Step 3/6, the Experimental Effectiveness starts out as half of the Experimental Durabliity, which is correct according to the resource weights.

    5. During Step 5/6, of the crafting process, experimentation to the Experimental Effectiveness line is not behaving correctly. In order to gain full experimentation of the Experimental Effectiveness line, the Droid Engineer must have 12 points of experimentation. Only using 10 experimentation points will leave 2 experimentation boxes. Unusual experimentation results will also occur, which appear to be related. At random points, better successes will result in the Mechanism Quality decreasing, instead of increasing like is should.

    6. Due to Issues 4 and 5, the experimentation on this schematic, using high end resources, will often result in a final product that has a Data Module Rating that exceeds the Level rating of the module. This has resulted in dozens of complaints on the forums and issues with JtL Astromech droids. If dozens of complaints can be found on the forums, about this issue, then more statics would suggest that more complaints can be found in game, with this issue.


      • Example - I craft a Level 1 Data Module and produce a Data Module Rating of 3. A Data Module Rating of 3 will produce a Level 1 Data Module that functions like a Level 2 Data Module, for the purpose of Pilot certification. Any DE who is unaware of the different Module Ratings will not be aware of the fact that the Module operates as a Level 2 and not a Level 1.




Level 1 Droid Item Storage Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor. Issues 4 and 5 are additonal issues with this schematic, related to the crafting process.




Level 1 Droid Medical Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.




Level 1 Droid Structure Maintenance Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.

    4. Structure is misspelled in the Step 3/6, Step 5/6, and Step 6/6 of the Crafting windows and is also misspelled when the module is completed. Structure is spelled Stucture in all 4 instances. This misspell appears in the information window in the line 'Stucture Maintenance Rating'




Level 2 Droid Data Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Data Storage Module entry


      • Example - I craft a Level 2 Data Module and produce a Data Module Rating of 5. A Data Module Rating of 5 will produce a Level 3 Data Module that functions like a Level 2 Data Module, for the purpose of Pilot certification. Any DE who is unaware of the different Module Ratings will not be aware of the fact that the Module operates as a Level 3 and not a Level 2.




Level 2 Droid Item Storage Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Item Storage Module entry




Level 2 Droid Medical Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Medical Module entry




Level 2 Droid Structure Maintenance Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Structure Maintenance Module entry




Level 3 Droid Data Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Data Storage Module entry


      • Example - I craft a Level 3 Data Module and produce a Data Module Rating of 7. A Data Module Rating of 7 will produce a Level 3 Data Module that functions like a Level 4 Data Module, for the purpose of Pilot certification. Any DE who is unaware of the different Module Ratings will not be aware of the fact that the Module operates as a Level 4 and not a Level 3.




Level 3 Droid Item Storage Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Item Storage Module entry




Level 3 Droid Medical Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Medical Module entry




Level 3 Droid Structure Maintenance Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Structure Maintenance Module entry




Level 4 Droid Data Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Data Storage Module entry



      • Example -I craft a Level 4 Data Module and produce a Data Module Rating of 9. A Data Module Rating of 9 will produce a Level 4 Data Module that functions like a Level 5 Data Module, for the purpose of Pilot certification. Any DE who is unaware of the different Module Ratings will not be aware of the fact that the Module operates as a Level 5 and not a Level 4.




Level 4 Droid Item Storage Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Item Storage Module entry




Level 4 Droid Medical Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Medical Module entry




Level 5 Droid Data Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Data Storage Module entry



      • Example - I craft a Level 5 Data Module and produce a Data Module Rating of 11. A Data Module Rating of 11 will produce a Level 5 Data Module that functions like a Level 6 Data Module, for the purpose of Pilot certification. Any DE who is unaware of the different Module Ratings will not be aware of the fact that the Module operates as a Level 6 and not a Level 5.




Level 5 Droid Item Storage Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Item Storage Module entry




Level 5 Droid Medical Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Medical Module entry




Level 6 Droid Data Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Data Storage Module entry




Level 6 Droid Item Storage Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Item Storage Module entry




Level 6 Droid Medical Module


  • Issue -


    1. See Level 1 Droid Medical Module entry




Manipulator Arm


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Manipulator Arm Package Set


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Merchant Barker Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.



Playback Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating, but not the number of Playback Tracks. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.



Prissy Droid Personality Chip


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.



Probot ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.

    5. The color palette for the Probot ADV Droid Chassis does not show up very well on the default grey coloring of the Probot ADV Droid Chassis . Less then half of the 64 color palette will show up on the chassis.



Protocol ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.

    5. The option to customized the Protocol ADV Droid Chassis is not available. All other ADV Droid Chassis have the option to change the color customization. The Protocol ADV Droid Chassis does not have the same 64 x 64 color pallete that is offered in the Deed for: Protocol Droid and Deed for: Protocol Droid, Advanced Model in Step 6/6 of the crafting process.



R2 ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.



R3 ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.



R4 ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.



Redundant Power Supply



  • No Known Issues




Repair Unit Casing




  • No Known Issues




Sarcastic Droid Personality Chip


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Scout Trap Projectile Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issue 1 the resource values that are listed for the Experimental Durability portion of this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the Experimental Durability of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor.




Ship Component Crafting Station Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Many non-Forum reading Droid Engineers confuse the Mechanism Quality listing with the Function Rating that is listed on Architect crafted Private Crafting Stations.

    4. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Slang Droid Personality Chip


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Stimpack Dispenser Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.




Structure Droid Crafting Station Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Many non-Forum reading Droid Engineers confuse the Mechanism Quality listing with the Function Rating that is listed on Architect crafted Private Crafting Stations.

    4. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Stupid Droid Personality Chip


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Surgical ADV Droid Chassis


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    3. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Quality does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    4. Due to Issues 1, 2, and 3 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic




Unit Delivery Cartridge




  • No Known Issues




Weapon Droid Crafting Station Module


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Many non-Forum reading Droid Engineers confuse the Mechanism Quality listing with the Function Rating that is listed on Architect crafted Private Crafting Stations.

    4. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic.




Worshipful Droid Personality Chip


  • Issue -


    1. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Durability does not appear to have any effect. This experimentation value appears to be completely erroneous.

    2. In Step 5/6 of the crafting process, Experimental Effectiveness will increase the maximum Mechanism Quality rating. The Mechanism Quality rating does not appear to have any effect on the entire droid crafting process, so it appears to be completely erroneous data.

    3. Due to Issues 1 and 2 the resource values that are listed for this schematic are erroneous. Resource quality does not play a factor in the quality of this schematic, since experimentation does not play a factor in this schematic

Message Edited by Drashk on 07-11-2005 01:57 AM





Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
Drashk
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:44 am
#148
Section 4
Community Suggestions




The following are suggestions that have been made by the community, to improve the quality of the Droid Engineer profession. The suggestions listed here are only that - Suggestions. Any changes that are to be made, for the future of the DE profession,should be reviewed by the current Droid Engineer Correspondent, before becoming set in stone for production.

Message Edited by Drashk on 07-11-2005 10:05 PM





Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
SimDroid
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:27 pm
#149

Looks great. I really don't think you missed anything other than the fact that medical modules are useless now since wounds can be healed anywhere.


I agree with the idea of speaking droids talking more often, though they should have an option to "mute".


One suggestion for a new feature for droids would be to have at least most, if not all models of droids have a unique innate ability, sorta like how the power droid can recharge another droid (though that is nearly useless since only one droid can be called at a time)


Here are a few examples:



  • WED and R4 droid: minor repairs to vehicles (no more than 40% of max "health")

  • LE Repair, Advanced WED, and Advanced R4: moderate repairs to vehicles (no more than 70% max "health")

  • Advanced LE Repair: major repairs to vehicles (85% - 95% max "health")

  • 3PO protocol droid: translate common non-basic languages within a certain perimiter (15 meters?)


    • Shyriwook

    • Bothese

    • Dosh

    • Ryl

    • Zabraki

    • Rodese

  • Advanced 3PO protocol droid: translate common and rare languages within a larget perimiter (30 meters?)


    • Above languages

    • Mon Calamari

    • Sullustian

    • Ithorian

    • Lekku?


      • (For this to work effectively something would have to be done about the way languages are currently so easilly learned)

  • R5 droid: naturally be a level 1 astromech droid

  • R2 droid, Advanced R5 droid: naturally have level 2 astromech capability

  • Advanced R2 droid: naturally have level 4 astromech capability (reduce number of max commands perhaps?)

  • R3 droid: naturally have level 3 astromech capability

  • Advanced R3 droid: naturally have level 5 astromech capability (reduce number of max commands perhaps?)

  • Probot droid: naturally be combat level5 pet

  • Advanced Probot droid: naturally be combat level 15 pet

  • DZ17 droid: give warcry, taunt, and intimidate bonusses

  • Advanced DZ17 droid: above bonusses, plus naturally be combat level 10

  • MSE droid: ability to carry a "notepad" with room for3 editable messages readable by group members

  • Advanced MSE droid: using same idea as /findfriend, ability to "send" (transfer) droid to a friend on the same planet

  • Binary Lift Loader: natural storage capacity of 10 objects

  • Advanced Binary Lift Loader: natural storage capacity of 25 objects

  • Power Droid: same as current - recharge another droid

  • Advanced Power droid: abilty to put a small amount of energy into a factory (5 units per percentage of battery life used - user's option)

I think that covers them all, though I may have missed one. What do you think? possible? feasable? I would love to see this; it would make droids much more useful than they are now.





----Appa Kyska --------------------------------
Twi'lek medic, Rebel sympathizer, Roleplayer
Stars' End, Lok - Tempest Server
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Drashk
Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:25 pm
#150



SimDroid wrote:

Looks great. I really don't think you missed anything other than the fact that medical modules are useless now since wounds can be healed anywhere.




Medical Modules are not useless. They just aren't a requirement anymore. A Level 6 Medical Module will add approximately 450 point of Health to a Bacta Shot, regardless of the persons medical skills. Someone with Novice Medic can heal themselves for approximately 750 points per use with the droid, compared to the 300 points without it. This can be a major deciding factor in PvP and PvE. I'm surprised that we don't see more droids being used in PvP, due to the large benefits that they can offer.



As for adding innate abilities to a droid.....


I won't really comment on this right now. I still have Section 4 to add, which are some of my personal favorite ideas. Section 4 is a completely seperate part of this thread, but listed to give the DEV team a general sense of what the community has discussed. This part of the thread will evolve as the communityadds more discussion on the subjects.






Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
SimDroid
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:50 pm
#151

"Medical Modules are not useless. They just aren't a requirement anymore. A Level 6 Medical Module will add approximately 450 point of Health to a Bacta Shot, regardless of the persons medical skills. Someone with Novice Medic can heal themselves for approximately 750 points per use with the droid, compared to the 300 points without it. This can be a major deciding factor in PvP and PvE. I'm surprised that we don't see more droids being used in PvP, due to the large benefits that they can offer."


Really? I had no clue... I'll have to check that out with my Doctor character. And to think that I was considerring getting rid of my surgical droid...



----Appa Kyska --------------------------------
Twi'lek medic, Rebel sympathizer, Roleplayer
Stars' End, Lok - Tempest Server
--------------------------------------------------
Drashk
Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:51 am
#152
I updated a few areas of the thread, including the removal of the Infinte Seeker issue, the removal of a few of the general droid use issues, and the addition of Publish 21 issues.





Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
VaAlor
Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:04 am
#153

Excellent information! I had no idea about the usefullness of the surgical droids. One of my toons is a DE, but I'm still learning a lot about the profession(no one else I knew took that route, so I've had to learn it as I go along). Thanks for the information!





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Catman-Does
Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:07 am
#154
Wow! Just wow, superb thread! Nice work... very nice work 





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Vorvee
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:03 am
#155
Great work. However, Arakyd Probe Droids only require Investigation II not III.
Atan
Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:43 am
#156
Something that isnt listed but seems to be fixed is the issue with the last droid from Arakyd/Seeker Crates.
Just pulled a the last Seeker from a crate and it has 20 charges, instead the bugged old 10 charges.
Can only guess but i would say they fixed both of them



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