Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Droid Focus (Interplanetary Survey): Information, discussion and bug-reporting (04/23/04)
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> Incoming planetary survey report...
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> Planet: Lok
> Resource Class: Mineral
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> Resources located...
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> Radioactive
> Known Radioactive
> Class 4 Radioactive
> Lapod **
> Metal
> Ferrous Metal
> Steel
> Quadranium Steel
> Ibibehia
> Duralloy Steel
> Omahi *
> Non-Ferrous Metal
> Copper
> Beyrllius Copper
> Rifiian
> Codoan Copper
> Firoekhoew
> Platinite Copper
> Awaokoite *****
> Low-Grade Ore
> Igneous Ore
> Extrusive Ore
> Bene Extrusive Ore
> contrast1 Carbadanorlic
> Keschel Extrusive Ore
> Omnidimeofoliate *
> Sedimentary Ore
> Siliclastic Ore
> Crism Siliclastic Ore
> Quadonikoh
> Robindun Siliclastic Ore
> Arowiwe
> Gemstone
> Amorphous Gemstone
> Regvis Amorphous Gemstone
> Opaism
> Stygium Amorphous Gemstone
> Ytos
> Crystalline Gemstone
> Gallinorian Rainbow Gem Crystalline Gemstone
> Larob
> Green Diamond Crystalline Gemstone
> Oesoreparis ***
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Forum seems to have wacked my indention. Oh well. You get the idea.
Message Edited by ArdenStarmariner on 04-21-2004 09:23 AM
Message Edited by Kaldeth on 04-22-2004 09:36 AM
Message Edited by Kaldeth on 04-22-2004 10:09 AM
OK its seems NO ONE here is a seriuos miner.
THIS DROID IS GREAT
it will save me over 1hr per day
for the past 3 months i have surveyed ALL planets and ALL resources every day. the main time sink is to go to planets to find NO NEW RESOURCES. whit this i can know when a new resources has poped and what kind it is. After a while harvesting u know what kind of stuf u wanna survey . This are great i will never miss a new resource again, and ill have to sepn a lot less time surveying.
i like it
Yes, the charges help to keep the cost down. But since you're likely to check more than 1 category, that's shot to hell. Survey 4 categories and jenden's (whose usually low cost) is 2000 credits. and if there's something you want you still have to pay the cash to get there.
whatever. its done, and bitching about it isnt going to help. This could have been a great droid, and while its not useless, its not usefull either. I wont hold my breath on getting it changed based on metrics. If they cant even take the time to run a report on a game wide event like Act 3 on time (being 10+ days late), whats the chances they wouldruna report on survey droid usage. Especially since it would just create more work for them to change it then.
Lonkley wrote:
Yes, the charges help to keep the cost down. But since you're likely to check more than 1 category, that's shot to hell. Survey 4 categories and jenden's (whose usually low cost) is 2000 credits. and if there's something you want you still have to pay the cash to get there.
whatever. its done, and bitching about it isnt going to help. This could have been a great droid, and while its not useless, its not usefull either. I wont hold my breath on getting it changed based on metrics. If they cant even take the time to run a report on a game wide event like Act 3 on time (being 10+ days late), whats the chances they wouldruna report on survey droid usage. Especially since it would just create more work for them to change it then.
how many professions really survey 4 categories? DE/WS/AS/architect need what, 2 at most? (chemical and mineral). Even then, for the most part the chemicals aren't specific (or if they are, its something like dantooine fiberplast, which you know is most likely on dantooine). Anyone who needs organics has the same deal as the chemicals, most of them are planet specific. While I can see it being nice for some large miners, even then a lot of the ones I know tend to focus on one type of resources.
JansosHosphe wrote:
They could havemade it a datapad item. Then you could pass it to another player, but by doing so you would lose it.
Maybe we could get them to do something like that for a sampling droid. Don't return an email, return a datapad item that shows the resource stats when examined, but can't be emailed... Make it act like a pet in your datapad. You can trade it, but then you don't have it anymore.
What do y'all think?
Kollos wrote:
Folks, it's not a cost issue. It is a usefulness issue.
A list of resources without stats just isn't that useful. Yes, there are corner cases where you can come up with uses for the droid - finding a new rare that just spawned and checking to see if the resource you're harvesting on some other planet still exists are two of them. But are those really sufficient to give this droid a decent market?
It is not going to do a ton of work for you, it just may save you some work.
AO
Javac wrote:
Excellent idea about making it datapad information! Maybe data modules would actually see some use then.
I have to chime in when people say that datapads in droids are useless...I use mine everyday.
They are for advanced crafters who do a ton of factory work.
If you only have one schematic or so at a time, you don't notice this - but schematics take up more than one slot in your traditional datapad. Try carrying around 4 or 5 and see - unless you have few waypoints saved and have tons of room, you won't be able to carry that many.
I find my data storage in my R3 to be invaluable - not only do I have a reference tool to work from (old schematics, for information and comparison), but I also have a place to store long term (i.e. those 100% items I made on the day crafting changed temporarily). I've got probably fifty in there ATM.
I use my data storage droid every day...and like the survey droid, it isn't meant for everyone to use - but those that have certain needs will find it invaluable.
AO
Jenden wrote:
Lonkley wrote:Yes, the charges help to keep the cost down. But since you're likely to check more than 1 category, that's shot to hell. Survey 4 categories and jenden's (whose usually low cost) is 2000 credits. and if there's something you want you still have to pay the cash to get there.
whatever. its done, and bitching about it isnt going to help. This could have been a great droid, and while its not useless, its not usefull either. I wont hold my breath on getting it changed based on metrics. If they cant even take the time to run a report on a game wide event like Act 3 on time (being 10+ days late), whats the chances they would run a report on survey droid usage. Especially since it would just create more work for them to change it then.
how many professions really survey 4 categories? DE/WS/AS/architect need what, 2 at most? (chemical and mineral). Even then, for the most part the chemicals aren't specific (or if they are, its something like dantooine fiberplast, which you know is most likely on dantooine). Anyone who needs organics has the same deal as the chemicals, most of them are planet specific. While I can see it being nice for some large miners, even then a lot of the ones I know tend to focus on one type of resources.
chefs do...
flora (obvious, high quality stuff needed for almost everything)
water (thakitilo)
gas - hurlotrombic, hydron 3, methanganen...all inert gas subtypes (tilla til)
chem - lubricating oil (vercuppti)
mineral - neutronium steel/radioactives (elshandruu pica thundercloud)
and those are the high quality stuff...theres a bunch of other stuff like animal resources, and various types that only need grind quality, so those don't really need much surveying effort.
but my point is...there is at least 1 profession that directly needs all 5 types of harvestable resources.
Sorry we cant all keep up with every page of posts. I'll check back later.
Folks, it's not a cost issue. It is a usefulness issue.
A list of resources without stats just isn't that useful. Yes, there are corner cases where you can come up with uses for the droid - finding a new rare that just spawned and checking to see if the resource you're harvesting on some other planet still exists are two of them. But are those really sufficient to give this droid a decent market?
For the bulk of surveying, they're just not useful. Just because a new Duralloy Steel spawns on Tatooine doesn't mean I'm going to go harvest it - it's gotta be good or I'm just not interested. Which means that since this droid doesn't report stats, I'm going tocontinue using SWGCraft to do my "surveying". Knowing that a resource exists just doesn't help enough - without SWGCraft I would still have to go to the planet and survey by hand in order to figure out whether or not I really wanted it.
I'd much rather remain immersed in the game and do it using an in-game system. This droid COULD have been that system, but unfortunately it doesn't look like it is going to live up to its potential. I sure hope that there are a lot of you who will be buying these droids, because no one I know or have talked to is interested in them beyond a bit of toying around, and that's not going to make a decent market for them.