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Thread: Harvestor droid issue (current patch)

ngp
Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:38 pm
#1

Now that we get bonuses to harvest when grouped, harvestor droids are now useless. Here's an example...


I have Hunting 2.

I'm grouped with one other non-Ranger friend.


I harvest bone from a juvenile krayt. 738 Units.

I instruct my +114 harvest droid to grab the bone from another juvenile corpse. 454 Units.


I tried it both grouped and ungrouped with droid.



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Jenden
Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:31 pm
#2

I was worried about this, but didn't get a chance to test it on TC... Can everyone that has a chance please try to test this (or talk to your respective communities and get some feedback), I want to get some details nailed down while they're doing minor patches on TC.



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bluephoenix8406
Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:02 pm
#3






Jenden wrote:
I was worried about this, but didn't get a chance to test it on TC... Can everyone that has a chance please try to test this (or talk to your respective communities and get some feedback), I want to get some details nailed down while they're doing minor patches on TC.





I did not know about this altho i droped scout while ago i do have some buddies who have a harvaster droid i will ask them about it



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HRRNighthawk
Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:25 am
#4

we'll that's just great...that's 300k worth of steel i just wasted making 900 creature harvesting modules then i come on here and see that there's some new grouping thing that makes those droids worthless. WONDERFUL!



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Thegreenmaster
Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:13 am
#5






Jenden wrote:
I was worried about this, but didn't get a chance to test it on TC... Can everyone that has a chance please try to test this (or talk to your respective communities and get some feedback), I want to get some details nailed down while they're doing minor patches on TC.







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Jenden
Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:36 am
#6



Thegreenmaster wrote:


Jenden wrote:
I was worried about this, but didn't get a chance to test it on TC... Can everyone that has a chance please try to test this (or talk to your respective communities and get some feedback), I want to get some details nailed down while they're doing minor patches on TC.


Lets be glad you dont build houses





hehe, I can see it now...

Anyway, yea, RL decided to come up and bite me in the ass, cutting my play time down to about 0 (what little time I could spare have been spent trying to keep up with patch notes and forum posts). Anyway, my big project is almost done, so I should be back into the swing of things again this weekend.



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Jenden
Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:05 am
#7

And I got some confirmation on it from the ranger board... needless to say, pushing for this one to get fix, and fast.



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Droid Engineer Blue Glowy
Owner, Operator, and Founder of DarkStar Inc.
Groupy of the best band in the galaxy, Solar Flair
3D art of Jenden by Saeelwenea

Rancor418
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:04 am
#8

Hey Jenden check the post on the Tarquinas page. I wrote what my stats were.

Thanks for pushing this throuh.



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Sylow
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:55 am
#9







we'll that's just great...that's 300k worth of steel i just wasted making 900 creature harvesting modules then i come on here and see that there's some new grouping thing that makes those droids worthless. WONDERFUL!



Keep them... i very much hope that droids will be adjusted soon.







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Eceen
Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:19 am
#10

Ok decided to run my own test with this and here are my results.

Toon 1 - Novice Scout
Toon 2 - 0440 Ranger - Has the best harvesting bonus without being a master.
Droid 1 - Harvesting Bonus 109 belongs to Toon 1
Droid 2 - Harvesting Bonus 109 belongs to Toon 2

Harvested regular Dewbacks on Tatooine for meat.

Toon 1 harvested - 33units
Second attempt - 33units
Third attempt - 33units

Toon 1 + Droid 1 - 37units
Second attempt - 38units
Third attempt - 38units

Toon 2 harvested - 49units
Second attempt - 46units
Third attempt - 46units

Toon 2 + Droid 2 - 50units
Second attempt - 49units
Third attempt - 46units

Toon 1 grouped with Toon 2 -
Toon 1 harvested - 39units
Second attempt - 39units
Third attempt - 39units
Toon 2 harvested - 59units
Second attempt - 59units
Third attempt - 59units

Toon 1 grouped with Toon 2 using Droids-
Toon 1 + Droid 1 - 22units
Second attempt - 22units
Third attempt - 22units
Toon 2 + Droid 2 - 31units
Second attempt - 32units
Third attempt - 32units

My results show that if a player with novice scout is grouped with a ranger their harvesting bonus is comparable to if they were alone using a droid. However if they use a droid grouped with a ranger they will get less than if they werent using a ranger or droid at all. The ranger would harvest the same regardless of wether he used a droid or not, but would get a bonus if grouped with a lower level scout.
Therefore seeing as how there are so few rangers even left in the game it would not truely hurt our sales for those who have harvesting droids such as armorsmiths who dont want to pay a ranger to do what they can do almost as well with a droid. Now that we have some information we can better instuct our customers so they can make a better choice depending on their needs and whether they have a ranger friend.



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Jenden
Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:43 am
#11

Thanks for the numbers, it definately shows us that not only are droids not getting the bonus for being grouped, but they may still be getting the old group penalty (which is why they're harvesting less when grouped than not).



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Droid Engineer Blue Glowy
Owner, Operator, and Founder of DarkStar Inc.
Groupy of the best band in the galaxy, Solar Flair
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Dariane_Kamutsovy
Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:27 pm
#12

Guys,


If one of you can make me a CHB droid as well on TC I will test with you being MR.. Cause I think and I'm very afraid of it being so, that CHB droids also have outlived their usefullness.


As MR I'm supposed to get a CHB of 150, which is way more then any droid you guys could make.

I'm not sure what the real formula is, but I think it's safe to assume that no droid will be ever giving me as MR any bonus ....


Lukos
Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:15 pm
#13

This is really horrible !! Making this droid useless is cutting our business from our best seller droid !

There should be a way for the devs to add the ranger's bonus to the droid when it's grouped and even when it's not.



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