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Thread: Combat droids sure are not lvl 30

JeCy
Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:41 am
#1


why are these things listed as lvl 30?? I tried to use mine on a single lvl 13 carniverous nuna which killed it in 3 hits. I had a droid stim with a power of 1700 and i was using my blaster on it.. These things are totally useless on anything over lvl 10. This is after the fix on there health.. Anyone know whats up? My droid used to be pretty usefull for talking stuff down now i might as well not even bother and just pay the 50-100k to higher a combat type to clear out a lvl 15 lair instead of wasting my time.



BTW my droids listed rating is CR30 and was made with maked out ham and armor modules.. though it is a converted 4500 ham 600 combat rated R3


Je'Cy

Message Edited by JeCy on 07-05-2005 05:44 AM

Aerec_Krouse
Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:08 am
#2

Were you grouped with the droid? If so, that may have soemthing to do with its combat level. I think I remember reading on here about pet taking on the level of their owners when grouped. If so, and you are a low level non-combat type (like my CL1 crafter for example) then the pet would take on your CL and would get beaten badly.

Hope this helps





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Ackdel
Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:34 am
#3

I kill rogue fambaas with mine all the time, not to mention maulers and anything else around my factories. As the poster above said, you're probably grouping with it, which will bring it down to your level.




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Yoda-5499
Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:37 am
#4

I think you may have grouped with it. When I take HAL (CL 30, R3, Level 4,6 armor, 3 combat modules, 3 auto-repair modules) out for killing, he can take out a group of level 26 thugs/theif/whatever and barely go under half health. Then I repair him and we are good to go. It may also be the lack of good combat modules. Although it's all bugged so it could be anything.



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Drashk
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:35 pm
#5

If your toon is below CL30, DO NOT group with the droid.


Pets/Droids will take on the CL of the group. If lowest member of the group has a CL below 30, then the droid will assume the CL of that member. If you are the only member of the group, then the CL that the droid will assume will be your own.



As a CL34 Creature Handler/Riflemen/Ranger, I will hunt with a combonation of 2 pets, equal to CL26, and 1 CL30 Combat Droid. Using those three pets in a group, I cansolo CL45 creatures with a few uses of the Repair Kit and Bacta Shot in about the same time as it takes me to take down a CL30 without the Droid.






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Yoda-5499
Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:34 pm
#6

So that group thing is a bug, right? Because if it's "working as intended", it shouldn't be.



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Drashk
Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:45 pm
#7




Yoda-5499 wrote:
So that group thing is a bug, right? Because if it's "working as intended", it shouldn't be.




During RotW Beta, pet/droid/perk grouping code was changed so that the 'pet' would not gain the CL of the highest group member, since would allow a Master Creature Handler / Master Other Elitethe ability to effectively have 3 CL80 pets, 1 CL80 Droid, and 1 CL80 perk. When this change was made, if you grouped with apet and were of a lower CL, the pet assumed your CL. This wasadmitted to as being a bug.


It isunknown if the code was changed back on purpose, to allow pets to assume the CL of the highest group member.






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RasalTheWise
Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:49 am
#8


Drashk wrote:

Yoda-5499 wrote:
So that group thing is a bug, right? Because if it's "working as intended", it shouldn't be.

During RotW Beta, pet/droid/perk grouping code was changed so that the 'pet' would not gain the CL of the highest group member, since would allow a Master Creature Handler / Master Other Elite the ability to effectively have 3 CL80 pets, 1 CL80 Droid, and 1 CL80 perk. When this change was made, if you grouped with a pet and were of a lower CL, the pet assumed your CL. This was admitted to as being a bug.

It is unknown if the code was changed back on purpose, to allow pets to assume the CL of the highest group member.




I speculate the pet-grouping thing is working as intended. That way a CL1 toon can't group with it's CL30 droid and let it tank while he/she rakes in the xp. But you get the benefit of a CL80 droid if you group with it and you're CL80. Sounds like a balance thing to me, and that's ok.




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Aglardae
Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:10 pm
#9




>>

Sorry you feel that way. My probot (same exact stats) destroys crazed durnis. It can wipe out a herd of CL18 creatures without stopping for a repair. So hear me now and listen to me later: Either your droid is bugged or you're doin' something wrong.

>>


Well I do what I have to do. I spend time collecting resources, I spend time building a droid and experimenting for it and it won"t even keep the stats after creation (armor factor).


Sometimes the CL 30 droid can fight CL 18 mobs, and sometimes it cant fight CL 8 mobs.

SoI suggest you test the system a bit more in different situations because as it is it's not working. And if you read the boards, you'll see many DE have the same problem with Probots. I don't see where I could make any mistake when all I do is pulling out my droid, not grouping with it, and sending it to attack mobs.


Oh .. by the way, I had two droids stored in my datapad and I used them both on the CL 8 creature. This was the same for both of them.


Your post is useless to my problem. If it works for you, it doesn't for a lot of us.


Aglardae

Message Edited by Aglardae on 07-06-2005 01:19 PM

Jenden
Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:24 pm
#10



Aglardae wrote:
>>
Sorry you feel that way. My probot (same exact stats) destroys crazed durnis. It can wipe out a herd of CL18 creatures without stopping for a repair. So hear me now and listen to me later: Either your droid is bugged or you're doin' something wrong.
>>
Well I do what I have to do. I spend time collecting resources, I spend time building a droid and experimenting for it and it won"t even keep the stats after creation (armor factor).
Sometimes the CL 30 droid can fight CL 18 mobs, and sometimes it cant fight CL 8 mobs.
So I suggest you test the system a bit more in different situations because as it is it's not working. And if you read the boards, you'll see many DE have the same problem with Probots. I don't see where I could make any mistake when all I do is pulling out my droid, not grouping with it, and sending it to attack mobs.
Oh .. by the way, I had two droids stored in my datapad and I used them both on the CL 8 creature. This was the same for both of them.
Your post is useless to my problem. If it works for you, it doesn't for a lot of us.
Aglardae

Message Edited by Aglardae on 07-06-2005 01:19 PM




Are these all probots that you're having problems with?



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Aglardae
Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:45 pm
#11


I only crafted probots for my friends and I since the droid changes. We all have the same problems.


I really don't feel like crafting anymore droids at this time.


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Jenden
Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:13 pm
#12

May have something to do with probots specifically, as I've never experienced that with any of my R-units (but don't have any probots on hand right now). is the droid making the creature "spitting" noise when its attacking, or the standard blaster noise?



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Ganis
Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:21 pm
#13

My combat probot lvl 30, 300 combat rating got his a$$ handed to him by a lvl 21.



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