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Thread: The Infamous January Publish Quote...

JustG
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:06 pm
#1

Howdy. This is from another post I made, but it refers specifically to you guys so I am going to repost it here. I am sure there will be alot more conversation about it later. :-)



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Glad you brought up the Droid post. Let's use that as an example of how things change.


I said, in my newsletter, thatthe January publish would be focussed on Droids. After that, Lucas and SOE agreed that Publish 6 would be focussed on the Imperial Crackdown, for two reasons:



1) Increase the feeling of Imperial oppresion to make the game more Star Wars feeling

2) Give us the time necessary to treat the droids with the amount of energy they deserve.


In Publish 6 (the publish I referred to), the following things are happening:


l Added general module slot to the advanced Binary Load lifter droid, and both basic and advanced protocol droids.fficeffice" />


l Droid storage compartments are now using droid experimentation rather than artisan.


l Droid customization tool now gives droid crafting xp instead of general xp


l Droid socket modules can no longer be plugged into one another.


l Multi-crafting station module droid capabilityfixed for some cases where one type would over-ride another type.


l Combat-related stats removed from examine windows for non-combat-capable droids


lItem Storage Module 2's now really are that, instead of becoming data storage module 2's during the crafting process.


l Added transition from combat to normal idle for Probe Droid.



So while Droids are not the MAIN focus, we are addressing some of the DE issues. In the next two publishes, after crackdown, we ARE focussing specifically on Droids. We plan on implementing combat droids (< level 10) in P7, and Utility Droids in P8.



Herein lies the main problem with telling the players anything. Things Change. Things change based on the current state of the game, and the desires of our publisher. And the second that they change, you drag up old posts and start screaming LIARS!!!



Do we lie to you? No. Do we tell you information that changes? Absolutely.



But things are going to change. If you want more information, you have to be prepared for that information to change. That is the very nature of MMOG's.



I want to keep you very informed about what is happening in our studio, for your game, because it really is your game. We are trying to have open discussions with you. We are trying to get the In Concept> In Dev > In Test > In Live system working. Please understand that this business is extremely unpredictable at times.



thx,



- g

gr3gg0rk
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:09 pm
#2

Thanks!




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Corrupt-Jedi
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:09 pm
#3

Woo who!



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HoChiHung
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:10 pm
#4

Thanks for posting JustG.


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"I will tell you this, Droids (and DE's) are going to be the MAIN
feature for the January publish. We will be fixing alot of things
and adding combat droids." - JustG - November 25, 2003
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Sodan-droiddreamer
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:11 pm
#5

Speaking of quotes, how do you explain this quote:


Just a Quick balance comparison

Armour, 75% resist, light. Including Modifiers approximatly 100% improvement of HAM

Skill Points: Free

Credits Cost: High


Master Doctor Buff

+3000 HAM, at least 300% increase

Skill Points: Free

Credits cost; Low-Medium


Spice/Foods

Increases to multiple stats and/or skills (including slcie bonuses)

Skill Points: Free

Credits Cost: Low


Skilltapes

Increases multiple stats/abilities

Skill points: Free

Credits Cost: Low Generally


Droid

"A Droid Cannot give bonuses or enhancementsto abilities or skills as that would be unbalancing" -TH

Skill Points: Free

Credits Cost: High




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gamehand
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:15 pm
#6


Thanks for the updated info JG



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Didious-Falco
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:16 pm
#7

Sodan makes apoint, but still THANKS! and very few are calling you liars, it is just as usual the loud ones (no offense to them though, they are great people, opinions just vary)
Gritten
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:20 pm
#8

The thing I like about this post most, is that I actually heard some frustration and some balls in it. Rather then apologizing it was to the point. When something does change people do scream LIARS and look for anything to back them up.


I'm looking back at all the things that have been said would be here or there or whatever that have changed, and looked at the other publishes and think to myself, I haven't been here long, but wow, some great things have happened, and so what if publish 6 gets changed to something else. Now I have something else to look forward to.


Paine


~Waiting excitedly for the crackdown





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ArchmagiCaT
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:21 pm
#9







JustG wrote:


Combat-related stats removed from examine windows for non-combat-capable droids.






Excuse me? I hope you mean the datapad. The only information in the /examine window is the armor stats. Now, my 45 HAM mouse probably can't handle a hit anyway, but Medium armor and 15% resists might give it a change. I sincerly hope you meant the damage/speed were taken from datapad, since it can't fight. Speaking of which, why can't they I was trying to get mouse droids to duel (the first step to Mouse droid "rooster" fights[Heh. Can't use their real name. **edit** censor]) but they ran from each other.


And I wish you Dev's wouldn't use HTML. It is hard to quote you because as you should know we can't use HTML so have to edit it out.

Message Edited by ArchmagiCaT on 02-04-2004 06:22 PM



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ideas
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:23 pm
#10

Thanks for explaining the situation and defending yourself, JustG.


We should also recognize that the alternative to being told something that might change, is being told nothing at all until it is too late to change. I, for one, would like to know the plans as early as possible, even if those plans might change.








So, let me get this straight: To advance my character, I have to give up my current abilities?

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duncje
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:24 pm
#11

JustG-


We all understand that priorities change, however, you could have informed us about this when you knew about the change, instead of letting us get crushed by false hopes in the 2 months since you stated that we (DE's) would be the main focus for January.


Nobody's calling you a liar, but your quote from November (and, so far, it's results) are typical of what DE's have been hearing since launch. We've been told, numerous times, by different people, that we were "next on the list", and these few bug fixes in Pub 6 are the first ones that have been fixed since launch.


And, I must say, adding ONE module slot to the Advanced BLL makes it half as useful as an MSE. And the basic BLL is still worth diddly...





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Alacrity
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:26 pm
#12

I'm seeing baby-steps when I was expecting great leaps. That's why I'm irritated.






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Soronume
Wed Feb 04, 2004 4:27 pm
#13

Thanks for posting, but as you can see from the sigs of half the community, we already know the state of this situation.


of course the new push for better communication from SOE never bothered to come tell us that we weren't on the plate anymore. we get to discover this for ourselves.


and -that- is the problem.


you always will have those that gripe over anything, but if we were told "expect this in january" and then when you had your Lucas command of "crackdown first" you told us...we are big enough to accept that.


for some reason you guys keep telling us "things change, when we change you always rip us. that's not fair" we woundn't rip if you kept us updated on the situation.


is this really that hard a concept? if you can't make a deadline TELL US.



My Glowie

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