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Javac

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:32 pm

I've been a MDE for quite a while now, and the plan described for DE as it is now will not help increase the number of droids about. At this rate with the current limited functionality and minimal functionality that is planned to be added, I wish the plan to focus on combat droids would have just gone ahead. At least there would have been more droids around and an actual market.

If I had known that it was either DC/Hybrid or couple tiny improvements I would have reconsidered my stance.

Anyone else feeling the same way?

Calis Exud - Droid Engineer Extrodianre - Retired

SkyeDarkangel

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:41 pm

#2

After this long wouldn't it be kind of mean-spirited to waste the work of all those MDE's before us? I'm not that new to DE, but I'm not almost a year long veteran of this pain either.

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Virtanis

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:41 pm

#3

Not me.

We should stop excusing this company and this development team for their inability to get this crap working right in the first place!!

Why should people think that, in orderfor us toget proper attention and fixes to the profession and droids we have to: 1) Shut up and swallow whatever they shovelat us, or 2) Voice our demands as a communityfor bug fixes and greater utility only to have them pay lip service to those demands or claim that greater utility "isn't possible"???

Ridiculous!

"You Droid Engineers have had to suffer through some tough times. The Devs do not hate the profession and have plans to address some of the larger concerns."
- Q-3PO 10/23/03 1st Annual Droid Engineering Academy Awards
- Fortium - Master Droid Engineer - Master Artisan - Grumpy Advocate for Droids and DE's -
- Proprietor of CF Industries Droidworks -
Naboo: -6600, 3450; Tatooine: -680, -4290; Dantooine: -772, 2860; Corellia: -140, -5500;

Virtanis

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:43 pm

#4

Oh, one more note: It was never "Droid Commander or DE/Combat Hybrid"

In SOE's eyes, it was only "Droid Commander".

"You Droid Engineers have had to suffer through some tough times. The Devs do not hate the profession and have plans to address some of the larger concerns."
- Q-3PO 10/23/03 1st Annual Droid Engineering Academy Awards
- Fortium - Master Droid Engineer - Master Artisan - Grumpy Advocate for Droids and DE's -
- Proprietor of CF Industries Droidworks -
Naboo: -6600, 3450; Tatooine: -680, -4290; Dantooine: -772, 2860; Corellia: -140, -5500;

TheWoody

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:48 pm

#5

DC no, Hybrid yes. Wasn't hard to read the writing on the wall over the last month that the Dev teamwon't actually take any real steps in making droids an integrated part of the game (E.G. the other professions), which is why I pushed toget some decent combat droids added into the DE profession. I've been telling everyone that we shouldtry and pushfor this because the publish 8 is going to be really weak (as this latest set of comments demonstrates) but I'm thinking it may be too late to do anything now.

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OrionsByte

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:49 pm

#6

I love how this board has such a remarkable propensity for hindsight.

Makes me think of a visit to the optometrist:

*click* "Better, or worse?"

"WORSE!"

*clack-click* "Better, or worse?"

"WORSE WORSE Aren't you listening?"

*clack-click* "Better, or worse?"

"ACK THIS IS THE WORST YET! Please put the first one back!"

*clack-click-clack* "This one? I thought you said it was worse."

"Well it wasn't that bad but I didn't realize it because I was too busy being mad that I couldn't see the nurse's name badge two rooms away like I thought I was going to be able to."

Yeah, I know. If I could, I would one-star myself. Well, maybe two stars for creativity.

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Virtanis

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:53 pm

#7

OrionsByte wrote:

"Well it wasn't that bad but I didn't realize it because I was too busy being mad that I couldn't see the nurse's name badge two rooms away like I thought I was going to be able to."

You know what has made me mad in this post? The thought that we should just cowtowto the Dev's whims and meekly swallow whatever they're cooking up(Droid commander) regardless of what the community wants.

Yes, that makes me mad, and rightly so I say.

"You Droid Engineers have had to suffer through some tough times. The Devs do not hate the profession and have plans to address some of the larger concerns."
- Q-3PO 10/23/03 1st Annual Droid Engineering Academy Awards
- Fortium - Master Droid Engineer - Master Artisan - Grumpy Advocate for Droids and DE's -
- Proprietor of CF Industries Droidworks -
Naboo: -6600, 3450; Tatooine: -680, -4290; Dantooine: -772, 2860; Corellia: -140, -5500;

Sodan-droiddreamer

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:57 pm

#8

Yep, hybrid. Wish they had told us. I think DEs would have settled on hybrid if they knew the alternate was DH or no-combat droids.

Sodan Droiddreamer (GEGN)
Sodan's Exotic Droidgarten - In Bohemian Grove (Geigen Shuttle), Tatooine (6156 7275)

TheRealTK421

Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:59 pm

#9

Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:

Yep, hybrid. Wish they had told us. I think DEs would have settled on hybrid if they knew the alternate was DH or no-combat droids.

DH/DC was, and shall remain, a bad idea.

The hundreds of people that voted against it very likely are not incorrect. They knew it was wrong...and they are still right.

/bow

Respectfully,

TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"

SWG DE Correspondent

Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)

"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."

Virtanis

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:01 pm

#10

Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
Yep, hybrid. Wish they had told us. I think DEs would have settled on hybrid if they knew the alternate was DH or no-combat droids.

I'd love hybrid also, but they never gave us that choice! From TH's first post on the subject in January, it's been "DH or nothing".

Yeah, we got plenty of lip service ("make your suggestions", "ooh, interesting idea", "nice, but it won't work") from them, but never ever anything official other than the DH plan.

"You Droid Engineers have had to suffer through some tough times. The Devs do not hate the profession and have plans to address some of the larger concerns."
- Q-3PO 10/23/03 1st Annual Droid Engineering Academy Awards
- Fortium - Master Droid Engineer - Master Artisan - Grumpy Advocate for Droids and DE's -
- Proprietor of CF Industries Droidworks -
Naboo: -6600, 3450; Tatooine: -680, -4290; Dantooine: -772, 2860; Corellia: -140, -5500;

Sodan-droiddreamer

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:03 pm

#11

TheRealTK421 wrote:

Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:

Yep, hybrid. Wish they had told us. I think DEs would have settled on hybrid if they knew the alternate was DH or no-combat droids.

DH/DC was, and shall remain, a bad idea.

The hundreds of people that voted against it very likely are not incorrect. They knew it was wrong...and they are still right.

But what about hybrid, TK?

Sodan Droiddreamer (GEGN)
Sodan's Exotic Droidgarten - In Bohemian Grove (Geigen Shuttle), Tatooine (6156 7275)

TheRealTK421

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:04 pm

#12

Virtanis wrote:

Yeah, we got plenty of lip service ("make your suggestions", "ooh, interesting idea", "nice, but it won't work") from them, but never ever anything official other than the DH plan.

Actually, I believe they said they looked at 'all the options' (3: Certs, Hybrid and DC/DH) and decided that DC/DH was the "best" solution (for them, not for the players).

All ideas and methods to cert them were summarily shot down. It's too bad really. Had they only communicated more (and more openly) with us all so many moons ago, we'd have had this all done by now.

Seriously.

Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot, huh, friends?

/bow

Respectfully,

TheRealTK421 a.k.a. "Doughbacca"

SWG DE Correspondent

Co-Founding member of Ahazi DENet & SWG DEA (Droid Engineer Association)

"I think all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. ...I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am."

Marc_Deltram

Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:05 pm

#13

OrionsByte wrote:

I love how this board has such a remarkable propensity for hindsight.

Makes me think of a visit to the optometrist:

*click* "Better, or worse?"

"WORSE!"

*clack-click* "Better, or worse?"

"WORSE WORSE Aren't you listening?"

*clack-click* "Better, or worse?"

"ACK THIS IS THE WORST YET! Please put the first one back!"

*clack-click-clack* "This one? I thought you said it was worse."

"Well it wasn't that bad but I didn't realize it because I was too busy being mad that I couldn't see the nurse's name badge two rooms away like I thought I was going to be able to."

Yeah, I know. If I could, I would one-star myself. Well, maybe two stars for creativity.

Under ordinary circumstances, I'd agree with your descriptioncompletely on this. However, the problem is that many of us (especially the really long term'ers), would have been unbelievably happy if they added nothing and just fixed all of the bugs on Gorantoth's thread.

While I cannot speak for anyone other than myself, I would guess that the large majority of us are not so much upset that we are not as UBER as we had wished, but that instead we are frustrated that we are just not as functional or useful as most other professions are, and we have been in this state since beta. We have had (and still have) more bugs per capita than any other profession and less attention and less (obvious) effort spent on us to go along with it. Though, to be fair, we've gotten quite a bit of lip service, which should count for something.

I am sure we'd all like to see the nurses' badge from two rooms away, but for most of us, we'd be happy if we even had the opportunity to sit in the freakin chair. Instead, along the lines of your example, we're sitting in our optometrist's waiting room being told we'll be called any time now...and when we finally do get called, we're given a podiatrist instead.

Message Edited by Marc_Deltram on 03-04-2004 02:07 PM

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