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Thread: Brother Jenden.....do you live?

Shian_Tavkin
Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:25 am
#1

Dear Brother Jenden


I am concerned for your wellbeing!! The Commune needs you!


Come out from under the table, nobody is blaming you


We kinda need you right now..I know it's a vain hope that anything useful is being said by the DEVS on the Corr Boards, but it would be nice to know for sure.


Welcome to the Droid Co-Operative where all are equal and none may surpass another, brothers all in the utopian society... it's the damned REDS I tell you!!


Cheers Comrades....now who can craft a red flag so I can keep it flying here?


/sob



Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Jenden
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:06 pm
#2

Partially my PC is down, partially I'm over on the corr boards fighting, partially work has picked up a bit... all together it means my posting time is down (though I am still reading everything and commenting on the ones that I have new/pertinent info on).



Jenden Morn - Master of Droids- Tarquinas
Droid Engineer Blue Glowy
Owner, Operator, and Founder of DarkStar Inc.
Groupy of the best band in the galaxy, Solar Flair
3D art of Jenden by Saeelwenea

RasalTheWise
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:08 pm
#3



Jenden wrote:
Partially my PC is down, partially I'm over on the corr boards fighting, partially work has picked up a bit... all together it means my posting time is down (though I am still reading everything and commenting on the ones that I have new/pertinent info on).


We know you're still fighting the good fight, brother!




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Jenden
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:10 pm
#4

On a related note, I should have some responses soon...



Jenden Morn - Master of Droids- Tarquinas
Droid Engineer Blue Glowy
Owner, Operator, and Founder of DarkStar Inc.
Groupy of the best band in the galaxy, Solar Flair
3D art of Jenden by Saeelwenea

Straker_Atrella
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:15 pm
#5

Jenden, please do your best to get the actual Droid developer here to talk to us. If they had read our posts on the forums, that would have solved a lot of problems.


Not saying you are not fighting the good fight, but a developer coming here would be.... well it would be good.



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Drashk
Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:38 pm
#6




Straker_Atrella wrote:

Jenden, please do your best to get the actual Droid developer here to talk to us.




Here is the thing....from what I have seen and heard, from a little birdie thatI still have slight contact with, there isn't a Droid Developer any more. Not like in the old days where a certain DEVs was known as the DE God.


The DEV team is now made up of a few 'strike teams', if you will, that work on a section of development and move on to another section, once their code is written. This would explain why a lot of bugs hit us hard on this publish. During CU beta, a blanket creature code was put into place that effected all pets and droids. This is the reason that droids can now be healed by medical skills and the reason that they are being effected by bleeds and such.


The code used for droids is rather complex. Add that complexity to changes that force the code to do something else, and then add code on top of that, to make the droids behave as they are now, with Publish 18.


All of that code layer stacking, without going back through to make sure that each line of code matchs up and doesn't conflict with something else, is the reason that Droids are so FUBAR right now. DE needs a single DEV to go through all of the miles of code line, to debug the entire droid system.


Of course, I would rather see the entire droid system gutted and replaced with one or two of the ideas that the DE community has suggested since launch. Then again, many of the people who know me IRL think I'm crazy.






Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
Jenden
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:09 pm
#7



Drashk wrote:

Straker_Atrella wrote:
Jenden, please do your best to get the actual Droid developer here to talk to us.

Here is the thing....from what I have seen and heard, from a little birdie that I still have slight contact with, there isn't a Droid Developer any more. Not like in the old days where a certain DEVs was known as the DE God.

The DEV team is now made up of a few 'strike teams', if you will, that work on a section of development and move on to another section, once their code is written. This would explain why a lot of bugs hit us hard on this publish. During CU beta, a blanket creature code was put into place that effected all pets and droids. This is the reason that droids can now be healed by medical skills and the reason that they are being effected by bleeds and such.

The code used for droids is rather complex. Add that complexity to changes that force the code to do something else, and then add code on top of that, to make the droids behave as they are now, with Publish 18.

All of that code layer stacking, without going back through to make sure that each line of code matchs up and doesn't conflict with something else, is the reason that Droids are so FUBAR right now. DE needs a single DEV to go through all of the miles of code line, to debug the entire droid system.

Of course, I would rather see the entire droid system gutted and replaced with one or two of the ideas that the DE community has suggested since launch. Then again, many of the people who know me IRL think I'm crazy.






Can they consider you crazy for suggesting it? I'd volunteer to write all the code, what does that make me?



Jenden Morn - Master of Droids- Tarquinas
Droid Engineer Blue Glowy
Owner, Operator, and Founder of DarkStar Inc.
Groupy of the best band in the galaxy, Solar Flair
3D art of Jenden by Saeelwenea

EnigmaBSc
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:11 pm
#8


Jenden wrote:
Can they consider you crazy for suggesting it? I'd volunteer to write all the code, what does that make me?

I have no idea, but count me in too

EnigmaBSc
scot740
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:11 pm
#9






Jenden wrote:

Can they consider you crazy for suggesting it? I'd volunteer to write all the code, what does that make me?





Flame bait





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Drashk
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:16 pm
#10





Jenden wrote:

Can they consider you crazy for suggesting it? I'd volunteer to write all the code, what does that make me?




Masochistic?


Oh wait, you already wear that title from being a DE and being a Correspondent.

Message Edited by Drashk on 06-15-2005 02:16 PM





Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
RasalTheWise
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:20 pm
#11


Straker_Atrella wrote:
Jenden, please do your best to get the actual Droid developer here to talk to us...



Come on Straker...you're a veteran here. You know getting a dev to post on the public boards is not going to happen. That's why we have corespondents. I've seen devs post before, but only on the private forums...




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Drashk
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:28 pm
#12




RasalTheWise wrote:

You know getting a dev to post on the public boards is not going to happen. That's why we have corespondents.


You mean DEVs post in the Correspondent's forum? A lot must have changed since I stepped down then......






Making SWG more Star Warsy. One droid at a time.
Shian_Tavkin
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:30 pm
#13


Tis a great relief to see ye well and Fighting The Good Fight Jenden, and to the other Worthies posting in this thread, I think I knew he was suffering comp problems (with my sympathy) but still, its nice to hear the sound of his voice.


Reassurance you know....steadying the troops and all that


I am sure the birdie sings the truth..the Droid code must be an almighty mess by now. Perhaps they are having a personality disorder having been mixed up with pets for so long..that might account for the spitting sounds at the very least.


Onwards and Upwards..no direction left as an alternative !!


Cheers






Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
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