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For all you new guys, some advice from an old timer who has seen a bunch of generations of you guys come and go. Hold your ideas. Just about all of them have already been proposed in the past by DE's who are long gone. For example, I think its about the 5th or 6th time I've seen someone come up with the Delivery Droid proposal. Here's what you should be doing:

1. Get behind the Droid Decay proposal. Everylasting droids has been the bane of our existance. Every enhancement, feature, etc. that has come out for DE's has caused a two week burst in sales and then a crash once everyone has their new neat droid thingie.

2. Shut up about anything else and give the DEV's absolute silence on any other idea, propsal, utility, or anything. Your not doing the DE community any favors with those neat ideas that you think are so original (they aren't. use the search tool). We really need to starve the DEV's of any ideas or concepts until they address our everlasting droid/no repeat sales issue.

You can ignore me if you want. Do you really enjoy seeing your inventory sit on your vendor? Do you enjoy relisting all those Auction Unsuccessfuls? Well, go ahead if you just want to be part of yet another generation of DE's that come and then fade away.

I don't think he's adverse to seeing new faces, just that he wants to see something happen, and wants the focus on that. But, I agree that people should learn to use the search function before posting thier "new" ideas...

Myself, I'm of the "sit back, relax" Style... I hang with the smugglers too much.

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KarlieOkota wrote:

Oh Arden, I am not sure I agree with you here.

If it were not for the new faces, our community would dwindle away into obscurity. I love reading new slants on old ideas, and being reminded about ideas long lost in the fathoms of our forum. Yes, I agree that we really need a decay system, but at the expense of silencing the community? After all said and done, it is still good to voice your dreams.

*hugs*
Karlie.

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Well, it would only be a silence until some sort of decay goes in. Or rather we need to be one voice telling them one thing, only one thing, and nothing else.

But lets not resort to holding our breath. We'd expire before they noticed us turning blue...

As it goes, JTL, Smuggler Revamp, Combat Rebalance, and who knows what all else has to all go live before we even see DEV attention on Droid Engineering again. Probably 6 months to a year from now. Alot of these new faces will have faded away by then.

Message Edited by ArdenStarmariner on 08-27-2004 12:03 PM

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TheOrb wrote:

Hold your ideas? I disagree.

Sure, most of them have already been brought up before. And seeing the same “new” idea multiple times does get old. People should try searching before posting one. But to “starve the DEV’s of any ideas” just doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. What if someone has a real original idea and we miss out on it?

“Do you really enjoy seeing your inventory sit on your vendor?”

No I don’t. I hate it when I get the “auction unsuccessful” emails. But I very rarely ever have to re-list my droids. They sell. I’m not sure if I’m just one of the lucky ones. It could be that I’ve been a droid engineer for so long and have good customers. I’m all for the droid decay proposal, but I’m also all for new stuff that causes be a two week burst in sales. Just make sure the new stuff doesn’t add new bugs. I still can’t customize my protocol droid.

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Well, the worst possible thing happens. The DEV's blow off condition decay again and implement your and everyone else's neat ideas instead. It creates a burst of sales on every server for ever DE for about 2 weeks. Sales then crash back down to the trickle its always been. All those DE's who proposed those neat ideas see how there's only a little money to be made in DE and sacrifice it in favor of Weapon or Armor Smith. And all us die hards are screwed again. Sorry, but I'd rather lose out on some neat idea than see this cycle repeat yet again.

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ArdenStarmariner wrote:

Well, the worst possible thing happens. The DEV's blow off condition decay again and implement your and everyone else's neat ideas instead. It creates a burst of sales on every server for ever DE for about 2 weeks. Sales then crash back down to the trickle its always been. All those DE's who proposed those neat ideas see how there's only a little money to be made in DE and sacrifice it in favor of Weapon or Armor Smith. And all us die hards are screwed again. Sorry, but I'd rather lose out on some neat idea than see this cycle repeat yet again.

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I AM a die hard. Since beta 3 I wanted to be a droid engineer and became one around August of 2003. Besides, even if we keep the inovative ideas coming, we will only see the easy to impliment ones. If people keep coming up with new (and old) ideas, it keeps them fresh in our mind. Honestly, I don't see any major droid engineer changes, like droid decay, happening until next year. And really we have quite a few bugs that need to be addressed before a droid decay system.

I suppose I am not the norm, but the only time I have a droid sales crash is when I don't have any droids on my vendor. My sales are pretty regular with the exception of the new module surges. It could also be that I put a lot of time into my proffesion. I advertise, I network, I even watch the auction channel for folks asking about droids. If they need help after they buy a droid, I help them. Building droids is only part of the profession for me, sales is another.

As for the die hards (me included) getting screwed again...it has happened before and it will happen again.

C'mon, TK knows what's important. He listens and knows how to prioritize our requests and deliver them to the devs. Problem is the devs aren't ganna even look at the DE class until after JTL.

I have regular sales as well. The slow steady rate which I figure is driven by player turnover on the server. I look at who is buying them and except for a few regular resellers who repackage my droids at speciality shops, I pretty much never see the same customers more than once. On those rare occassions I seem the same name more than once, its just about always someone changing professions and need a new profession specific droid. Return sales like weaponsmiths and armorsmiths see has been something that DE's haven't realized. Very simply, armor and weapons have a decay mechanism in place where droids don't. I find it kinda sad to open up the vendor tab and count over 30 weaponsmiths, over 20 armorsmiths, about the same number of chefs, and then look under droids and only find 3. At the end of droid rebuilt publish, there was about 15 on the tab. Very few players find that sort of sales rate acceptable and don't consider droid engineering a viable business. I see new DE faces on the server pop up all the time. I'm also amazed at how fast they disappear as well as soon as they see what business is like without return sales.

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RasalTheWise wrote:
C'mon, TK knows what's important. He listens and knows how to prioritize our requests and deliver them to the devs. Problem is the devs aren't ganna even look at the DE class until after JTL.

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Yes, TK is doing a great job within the limits he's allowed. But alot of this stuff clouds an issue we have with core functionality. And the DEV's have latched onto things that are quick and easy to implement just because they are quick and easy.

Do you guys really have the runs at the mouth so bad you can't hold it for awhile? If its a great idea, it will still be a great idea later. It can wait until after we get the life saving major surgery we need. Then we can go back to the cosmetic.

And for those who think we will get attention after JTL, guess again. It will be after the following:

1. JTL
2. Smuggler Revamp
3. Combat Rebalance

That's the shortlist. I'm sure I missed some.

Message Edited by Malitevv on 08-27-2004 01:05 PM

Message Edited by Malitevv on 08-27-2004 01:07 PM