Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: DE Community Patch Notes
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Drashk
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:04 pm
#1
Today's patch has brought us a few changes. Keep in mind that not everything will be working correctly until JtL is released next week, however here are a few things that we can see now.
- The Customization Lifespan has been raised from 200 to 2000. This holds true for newly crafted Droids and with the use of a Customization Kit. This also applies to Vehicles as well.
- Droid Crafting Stations are now Owner use only. No one standing near your droid will benefit from the effects of an installed crafting station.
- Droid Engineers have 8 new craftable items.
- v 1-6 Flight Computers
- Unprogrammed Droid Command Modules
- Ship Component Crafting Modules
The v Flight Computers will be usable by the 3 different Piloting Professions. The FCs are used to store Command Programs that each piloting branch recieves as they progress in training. The level of the Flight Computer that a pilot can use is dependent on the current level of the pilot.
- A Novice Pilot can use a v1 Flight Computer
- A Tier 1 Pilot can use a v2 Flight Computer
- A Tier 2 Pilot can use a v3 Flight Computer
- A Tier 3 Pilot can use a v4 Flight Computer
- A Tier 4 Pilot can use a v5 Flight Computer
- A Master Pilot can use a v6 Flight Computer
The Unprogrammed Droid Command Module is the medium used to transfer the programs that each pilot knows to his/her Droid or Flight Computer. Programmed Droid Command Modules can be traded to other pilots, for them to use in their Droid, or Flight Computer.
Ship Component Crafting Modules function the same as our current Droid Crafting Modules.This Module gives a Shipwright the freedom of mobility.
Data Storage Modules have been given a little more purpose with JtL. When installed in any of the R-Series Droids, they offer the same function as a vX Flight Computer. Unfortunately, Astromech Droids are limited to a much smaller number of ships then the Flight Comptuers.
The Data Storage Rating on Droid Deeds has been replaced with 'Pilot's Required Astromech Certification: Level x'. The Level is equal to the function Level of Data Module. IE Pilot's Required Astromech Certification: Level 5 = Level 5 Data Storage Module.
Ground Regression Issues
The only Ground Regression Issues that I have seen so far involves the Data Module Experimentation and the Level 5 and 6 Data Storage Module requirements.
The crafting code for the Effectiveness Experimentation on Data Storage Modules appears to be behaving as if it was being effected by the 'One Day Crafting Change' code. It currently requires a 12 point DE, or a really lucky experimentation, to use the full potential of the Resource Stats. The DEVs are aware of this issue.
The Level 5 and 6 Data Storage Module resource requirements have been changed. I'm looking into whether or not this change was intentional. The following are the 'new' resource requirements, which do not include the EMM and EGP chips.
Level 6 Droid Data Stoage Module
50 Units of Copper
20 Units of Inert Gas
12 Units of Low Grade Ore
7 Units of Fiberplast
50 Units of Copper
20 Units of Inert Gas
12 Units of Low Grade Ore
7 Units of Fiberplast
Level 5 Droid Data Stoage Module
40 Units of Copper
16 Units of Inert Gas
9 Units of Low Grade Ore
6 Units of Fiberplast
40 Units of Copper
16 Units of Inert Gas
9 Units of Low Grade Ore
6 Units of Fiberplast
All in all, Droid Engineers have recieved a little bit of luvin', with very minimal additional bugs added. We should see a bit more, in the next few weeks. If you've had the chance to visit the JtL Issues Thread, one of the biggest thing that you should notice is all of the communication that we have had with 'our' DEV.
Message Edited by Drashk on 10-21-2004 01:07 PM
psikobunny
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:09 pm
#2
Droid crafting stations only work for the owner now. Did we ask for that? Is there a rhyme or reason to it? *scratches head*
Droid Customization will now last for about 2000 calls.
....
two thousand
....
: checks vendor, pulls the crates of paint kits off, heads to the bazaar to sell them at 500cr per and never make any again. Sorry, I know we asked for longer life, but am I the only one that thinks that's excessive? Is this how they "fix" our Issue with crates not showing the charges? by making it patently ridiculous to sell a crate? *sigh* I was happy with 200, I thought most people were.
I did the math. An 8 charge kit will provide a droid owner with 8000 calls on a 2 color droid. If said droid owner calls his droid 20 times a day, every day, that paint kit will need to be replaced in.... 400 days. Do you know anyone who calls a droid 20 times a day every day? I don't.
I know I'm sounding cranky, but I'm just deeply deeply confused by this move.
JavelinCatcher
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:15 pm
#3
Drashk wrote:
The Level 5 and 6 Data Storage Module resource requirements have been changed. I'm looking into whether or not this change was intentional. The following are the 'new' resource requirements, which do not include the EMM and EGP chips.
Level 6 Droid Data Stoage Module
50 Units of Copper
20 Units of Inert Gas
12 Units of Low Grade Ore
7 Units of Fiberplast
Level 5 Droid Data Stoage Module
40 Units of Copper
16 Units of Inert Gas
9 Units of Low Grade Ore
6 Units of Fiberplast
I want to state right now I am completly againstthe new resource requirements for these modules. It devalues the module for those of us who have waited months upon months for Dioxis Inert Gas and could have seperated a pilot with mediocre equipment from one who sought out a high end droid from a long time Droid Engineer.
Gron_DM
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:16 pm
#4
wow guess that means my data6's i had made from previously are worth something 
TheRealTK421
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:21 pm
#5
Not for awhile....
Gron_DM wrote:
wow guess that means my data6's i had made from previously are worth something
/bow
Respectfully,
Vampiric_Hoshi
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:25 pm
#6
Yeah but you ALL need to be prepared for one thing;
I'm sure many of you have been selling astromechs with data modules recently as people have heard they are needed for flying ships without knowing anything about it ... well except a LOT of customer abuse when they buy JTL and find out they cant use the droid they bought from you!
As Drashk has said, the level of the data module relates to the level of the pilot. If your droid has a lvl 6 data module in it and you are only a tier 1 pilot, you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THAT DROID in their ships until you hit master.
Put simply, anyone that wishes to use droids in their ships will have to buy a new droid when they first become a tier 1 pilot and will then require a new droid respectively as they jump through each tier.
This is going to create plenty of business for us but at the same create a LOT of customer aggrevation and anger.
So be warned and make sure you let your customers know this!
Gron_DM
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:26 pm
#7
look at the flip side youll need an open type of resource to get the experimentation up to lvl 6 quals
JavelinCatcher wrote:
Drashk wrote:
The Level 5 and 6 Data Storage Module resource requirements have been changed. I'm looking into whether or not this change was intentional. The following are the 'new' resource requirements, which do not include the EMM and EGP chips.
Level 6 Droid Data Stoage Module
50 Units of Copper
20 Units of Inert Gas
12 Units of Low Grade Ore
7 Units of Fiberplast
Level 5 Droid Data Stoage Module
40 Units of Copper
16 Units of Inert Gas
9 Units of Low Grade Ore
6 Units of Fiberplast
I want to state right now I am completly againstthe new resource requirements for these modules. It devalues the module for those of us who have waited months upon months for Dioxis Inert Gas and could have seperated a pilot with mediocre equipment from one who sought out a high end droid from a long time Droid Engineer.
JavelinCatcher
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:32 pm
#8
A Level 6 data storage module will always produce the maximum level of schematic storage. If you arn't producing data modules for Pilot use, why use anything lower?
Gron_DM wrote:
look at the flip side youll need an open type of resource to get the experimentation up to lvl 6 quals
Vampiric_Hoshi
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:34 pm
#9
Its not too late to get Drashk to push for a change in the resource type. Remember that regardless of this being on live, JTL is still in beta phase and anything mentioned here is STILL liable for change before JTL ships.
If you want the resources changed then start a "change the resource patition" thread and see if you can get enough responces from the community within the next 7 days to give Drashk something to show the devs and get them to correct this. Changing what resources an item needs is NOT a big change to make, I doubt there would be much of an issue with this if the DE community opens its voice
TheRealTK421
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:38 pm
#10
Also....I have a guide that I'll be putting up whenever it's official that I can.
It's not perfect...but it should bring together a lot in one place (and I know that Drashk has some goodies too, Ibelieve).
/bow
Respectfully,
It's not perfect...but it should bring together a lot in one place (and I know that Drashk has some goodies too, Ibelieve).
/bow
Respectfully,
Drashk
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:40 pm
#11
psikobunny wrote:
Droid crafting stations only work for the owner now. Did we ask for that? Is there a rhyme or reason to it? *scratches head*
Actually, this change seems to be a two fold fix.
- It keeps a droid crafting station from interfering with any other crafters in the area. Imagine if you a were trying to craft something using practice mode, using a crafting assist macro, when someone with a Droid Crafting Station walks into the area. The Droid would throw off the average crafter's schematic listing and crafting macro. This does actually happen fairly often in cities with lots of traffic.
- It will reduce the instances of 'cross crafting station' issues. Since Private and Public Crafting Stations have an issue with crossing signals, changing the Droid Crafting Stations should nullify any issues of Crafting station signal cross with Droid stations
Droid Customization will now last for about 2000 calls.
....
two thousand
....
: checks vendor, pulls the crates of paint kits off, heads to the bazaar to sell them at 500cr per and never make any again. Sorry, I know we asked for longer life, but am I the only one that thinks that's excessive? Is this how they "fix" our Issue with crates not showing the charges? by making it patently ridiculous to sell a crate? *sigh* I was happy with 200, I thought most people were.
I did the math. An 8 charge kit will provide a droid owner with 8000 calls on a 2 color droid. If said droid owner calls his droid 20 times a day, every day, that paint kit will need to be replaced in.... 400 days. Do you know anyone who calls a droid 20 times a day every day? I don't.
I know quite a few people who change the color of their droids to match the outfit that they are wearing. With this change, we may actually see a slight increase in sales, especially since a few more droids are going to be sold soon. You could always color your Droid Deeds an obnoxious color, so that people are encouraged to by a Customization kit or 2.
I agree that the 2000 call change is a little bit extreme, but I think it should help to increase overall Customization Kit sales as more people learn that Customization lasts longer. A single Character will buy less Customization Kits, however the number of Characters buying Customization Kits should increase drasticly.
Drashk
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:42 pm
#12
JavelinCatcher wrote:
I want to state right now I am completly againstthe new resource requirements for these modules. It devalues the module for those of us who have waited months upon months for Dioxis Inert Gas and could have seperated a pilot with mediocre equipment from one who sought out a high end droid from a long time Droid Engineer.
Ya konw how I feel on this one from the various threads that I have mentioned it in already. 
This is one of my 'top' JtL Live issues at the moment.
Straker_Atrella
Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:43 pm
#13
Ok, Drashk you already know how I feel about all of this from the JTL boards.
My beef has already been that somebody could grind up DE the day before JTL goes live and make Astro Droids and FC 100% as effective as somebody who has been DE for a year.
Now instead of making it better, they make it worse? You don't even need Dioxis gas or Bery copper anymore, meaning anybody can make them easily. Already servers are flooding with new DE's just hoping to cash in on JTL. After the rush is over, they will drop it. Leaving the Die Hard DE's still a profession in need of help.
Then you add the fact that we wont be selling custom kits effectivly anymore.
I just don't get it. I know it isn't you, but this is really frustrating.
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