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Thread: What is a 12pt crafter?

sonber
Mon May 23, 2005 9:15 pm
#1

so



- I support a rollback! I did NOT buy a FPS game!
"Live the greatest saga ever told... YOURS!" Star Wars Galexies, An Empire divided...
Your voice counts!

cancelled my account, after 3 years of playing this game, day one, fought a giant peko peko with a group of 20 novice marksmens, day 50 fought a krayt dragon with a group of creature handlers, doctors, and rifleman, deleted and created 4 charactrs after mastering professions with each, sometimes up to 10 with each one, just because i actually enjoyed leveling in pre-CU,

DONT CALL the era before CU " pre-CU " call it SWG, for that is what it really was, this now is just an everyday terrible computer game.

well, ill stick to single player games for a while, im done with WoW too, but it sure beats the heck out of NGE-SWG, i will certaintly purchase SWG again, +all expansions if they gave back CU, id do it in a heartbeat but until that glorious, fantasized day, i wont be here.

CU was a great game, and i wont rest till its back or im banned, so please people just keep rooting for it, it will eventually come, or SOE will eventually be out of buisness due to all the accounts banned

I think that the NGE has to many things wrong
---not fun at all to level
---not fun at all to pvp
---to small variety of classes/professiosn to choose from
---quest to credit reward ration is to small based on the economy from the trade forms
---Classes dont do what they are suppose to
------smugglers dont smuggle
------jedi just have sabers, no interaction with other jedi, and no light or dark
------spies dont spy and recover data or plant data etc, they just go invisible (WoW and other game rip off)
------trader just makes items that dont work with the economy since loot is better
------pilot doesnt work since nobody goes in space often enough and the space with no space battles or anything is crap all together
------bounty hunters dont have enouhg bounties on the terminals to be able to hunt, they just stand there all day
------officer is a joke, you dont even command troops
------commando is like officer just you get differnt weapons, you dont blow anything up
---lots of things are screwed with the game, and id be happy if i could have SWG (pre-cu) even with no more content then it had, a whole lot better than this

Why SOE cant just go back i dont know, why they have to be proud, i dont know



SO I SAY FINALLY AND FOREVER.....

OR UNTIL REAL SWG RETURNS

GOOD BYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrWizzard
Mon May 23, 2005 9:47 pm
#2

Normal crafters have 10 experimentation points (human master artisans have 11)
If you get tapes/clothing that give you +20 more to experimentation, then you gain 2 more experimenation points



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RasalTheWise
Mon May 23, 2005 10:03 pm
#3

Ok I'll bite: What's with the "so"?




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MrWizzard
Mon May 23, 2005 11:39 pm
#4



RasalTheWise wrote:
Ok I'll bite: What's with the "so"?



My guess it was in lieu of a blank post or 'see title' post....



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sonber
Tue May 24, 2005 7:33 am
#5

is a human artisian a 13pt crafter, and does +25 experimentation in clothing and tapes nto help?



- I support a rollback! I did NOT buy a FPS game!
"Live the greatest saga ever told... YOURS!" Star Wars Galexies, An Empire divided...
Your voice counts!

cancelled my account, after 3 years of playing this game, day one, fought a giant peko peko with a group of 20 novice marksmens, day 50 fought a krayt dragon with a group of creature handlers, doctors, and rifleman, deleted and created 4 charactrs after mastering professions with each, sometimes up to 10 with each one, just because i actually enjoyed leveling in pre-CU,

DONT CALL the era before CU " pre-CU " call it SWG, for that is what it really was, this now is just an everyday terrible computer game.

well, ill stick to single player games for a while, im done with WoW too, but it sure beats the heck out of NGE-SWG, i will certaintly purchase SWG again, +all expansions if they gave back CU, id do it in a heartbeat but until that glorious, fantasized day, i wont be here.

CU was a great game, and i wont rest till its back or im banned, so please people just keep rooting for it, it will eventually come, or SOE will eventually be out of buisness due to all the accounts banned

I think that the NGE has to many things wrong
---not fun at all to level
---not fun at all to pvp
---to small variety of classes/professiosn to choose from
---quest to credit reward ration is to small based on the economy from the trade forms
---Classes dont do what they are suppose to
------smugglers dont smuggle
------jedi just have sabers, no interaction with other jedi, and no light or dark
------spies dont spy and recover data or plant data etc, they just go invisible (WoW and other game rip off)
------trader just makes items that dont work with the economy since loot is better
------pilot doesnt work since nobody goes in space often enough and the space with no space battles or anything is crap all together
------bounty hunters dont have enouhg bounties on the terminals to be able to hunt, they just stand there all day
------officer is a joke, you dont even command troops
------commando is like officer just you get differnt weapons, you dont blow anything up
---lots of things are screwed with the game, and id be happy if i could have SWG (pre-cu) even with no more content then it had, a whole lot better than this

Why SOE cant just go back i dont know, why they have to be proud, i dont know



SO I SAY FINALLY AND FOREVER.....

OR UNTIL REAL SWG RETURNS

GOOD BYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RasalTheWise
Tue May 24, 2005 9:21 am
#6

You are capped at an additional 2 points for experimenting. Basically you can't enhance any of your abilities above +20 with anything, racial bonus or otherwise.




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Atan
Tue May 24, 2005 11:04 am
#7






RasalTheWise wrote:
You are capped at an additional 2 points for experimenting. Basically you can't enhance any of your abilities above +20 with anything, racial bonus or otherwise.





um, wrong. The Cap for stats from clothing and other items is +25 and it does stack with racial bonuses.
Dont know about the SW stuff but it is certainly possible to become a human 14 point artisan.






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RasalTheWise
Tue May 24, 2005 1:18 pm
#8



Atan wrote:


RasalTheWise wrote:
You are capped at an additional 2 points for experimenting. Basically you can't enhance any of your abilities above +20 with anything, racial bonus or otherwise.


um, wrong. The Cap for stats from clothing and other items is +25 and it does stack with racial bonuses.
Dont know about the SW stuff but it is certainly possible to become a human 14 point artisan.




Ok, allow me to elaborate. The bonuses do stack, but they are not effective above +20.




Rasal's Ye Ol' Droid Shoppe

00000000000
00
0000000000
0
000000000000
00
000_0000000 Purveyor of fine and sophisticated droids and other Artisan needs.
0000/0\000000 Come see my shop in beautiful South Coronet!
000000000000 Shop Location: -140, -5500
00000000000
000000000

Atan
Tue May 24, 2005 1:31 pm
#9






RasalTheWise wrote:





Atan wrote:





RasalTheWise wrote:
You are capped at an additional 2 points for experimenting. Basically you can't enhance any of your abilities above +20 with anything, racial bonus or otherwise.





um, wrong. The Cap for stats from clothing and other items is +25 and it does stack with racial bonuses.
Dont know about the SW stuff but it is certainly possible to become a human 14 point artisan.







Ok, allow me to elaborate. The bonuses do stack, but they are not effective above +20.






Oh, you mean the regular tapes? the profession specific as. & exp. tapes?
I dont think that having +25 is as effective as having +20, you just get no more points but the bonus in the chance of having amazing as. & exp. ...not much but still a difference i would guess





Infinity:
Atan Schmitz (Retired Master Droid Engineer, whatever SOE calls him)
Traal (Bounty Hunter, 13 confirmed Kills)
Currently looking into renewing my Subscription.
It is tentavely scheduled for Publish 29, but it might be pushed back to "soon"©

RasalTheWise
Tue May 24, 2005 2:30 pm
#10


Atan wrote:


RasalTheWise wrote:


Atan wrote:


RasalTheWise wrote:
You are capped at an additional 2 points for experimenting. Basically you can't enhance any of your abilities above +20 with anything, racial bonus or otherwise.


um, wrong. The Cap for stats from clothing and other items is +25 and it does stack with racial bonuses.
Dont know about the SW stuff but it is certainly possible to become a human 14 point artisan.




Ok, allow me to elaborate. The bonuses do stack, but they are not effective above +20.


Oh, you mean the regular tapes? the profession specific as. & exp. tapes?
I dont think that having +25 is as effective as having +20, you just get no more points but the bonus in the chance of having amazing as. & exp. ... not much but still a difference i would guess




It was told to me a while ago that no skill stat (artisan, combat or otherwise) can benefit beyond +20 using clothing/armor/racial bonuses. FS bonuses are a class of their own, I believe, but I don't know enough about that to say anything about it.

Its difficult to be 100% sure about any of this, since devs don't exactly post concrete data about it.




Rasal's Ye Ol' Droid Shoppe

00000000000
00
0000000000
0
000000000000
00
000_0000000 Purveyor of fine and sophisticated droids and other Artisan needs.
0000/0\000000 Come see my shop in beautiful South Coronet!
000000000000 Shop Location: -140, -5500
00000000000
000000000

Cigaran
Tue May 24, 2005 3:28 pm
#11






RasalTheWise wrote:




Atan wrote:





RasalTheWise wrote:





Atan wrote:





RasalTheWise wrote:
You are capped at an additional 2 points for experimenting. Basically you can't enhance any of your abilities above +20 with anything, racial bonus or otherwise.





um, wrong. The Cap for stats from clothing and other items is +25 and it does stack with racial bonuses.
Dont know about the SW stuff but it is certainly possible to become a human 14 point artisan.







Ok, allow me to elaborate. The bonuses do stack, but they are not effective above +20.






Oh, you mean the regular tapes? the profession specific as. & exp. tapes?
I dont think that having +25 is as effective as having +20, you just get no more points but the bonus in the chance of having amazing as. & exp. ... not much but still a difference i would guess






It was told to me a while ago that no skill stat (artisan, combat or otherwise) can benefit beyond +20 using clothing/armor/racial bonuses. FS bonuses are a class of their own, I believe, but I don't know enough about that to say anything about it.

Its difficult to be 100% sure about any of this, since devs don't exactly post concrete data about it.



FS are a bonus to the "rolls" that are made to see if and how well we succed atan experimentation or assembly. You can benefit from the extra +5 on at +25 item. You just need to have a +15 bonus to see the effect. Basically, a human Artisan is the only way that extra +5 will ever hep you since humans get +15 to Artisan Exp. as a Racial Bonus.




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Smuggler,Smuggler's Alliance Pilot
Drop off Vendor @ -1419 -187 Naboo
RasalTheWise
Tue May 24, 2005 6:05 pm
#12


Cigaran wrote:
FS are a bonus to the "rolls" that are made to see if and how well we succed at an experimentation or assembly. You can benefit from the extra +5 on at +25 item. You just need to have a +15 bonus to see the effect. Basically, a human Artisan is the only way that extra +5 will ever hep you since humans get +15 to Artisan Exp. as a Racial Bonus.



Ah, ok. So what you're saying is the Artisan Experimentation skill enhancement is capped at +25 (like all the other skills), but the +15 human racial bonus is the only way to bump that up past +25, effectively making a human a 14 point Artisan experimenter (25+15). That does make sense. So what I understood was almost correct. Thanks!




Rasal's Ye Ol' Droid Shoppe

00000000000
00
0000000000
0
000000000000
00
000_0000000 Purveyor of fine and sophisticated droids and other Artisan needs.
0000/0\000000 Come see my shop in beautiful South Coronet!
000000000000 Shop Location: -140, -5500
00000000000
000000000

Cigaran
Tue May 24, 2005 6:34 pm
#13






RasalTheWise wrote:




Cigaran wrote:
FS are a bonus to the "rolls" that are made to see if and how well we succed at an experimentation or assembly. You can benefit from the extra +5 on at +25 item. You just need to have a +15 bonus to see the effect. Basically, a human Artisan is the only way that extra +5 will ever hep you since humans get +15 to Artisan Exp. as a Racial Bonus.






Ah, ok. So what you're saying is the Artisan Experimentation skill enhancement is capped at +25 (like all the other skills), but the +15 human racial bonus is the only way to bump that up past +25, effectively making a human a 14 point Artisan experimenter (25+15). That does make sense. So what I understood was almost correct. Thanks!




Yup, now you've got it. Odd foot note is that most people don't really consider Artisan Exp. too be all that great. Normally, you can get the tapes for reasonable amounts of credits.



Cigaran Lanarik
Mayor of Alacio Island, Naboo C
Smuggler,Smuggler's Alliance Pilot
Drop off Vendor @ -1419 -187 Naboo
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