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Thread: part of a poll in the Shipwright forum DE's opinions

Capt
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:05 am
#1

OK, part of a poll in the Shipwright forum is this:
Droid Interfaces/Flight Computers:

* I would like to see Flight Computers moved to Shipwright.
* OR
* I would like to see Droid Interfaces moved to Droid Engineer.

Now, since this does actually affect us, I thought I'd bring this one over here for people not reading the SW forum (I don't much)

What say you, DEs?

I'd probably not mind moving DIs to us, but I wouldn't like them to remove the FCs, as we need all the sales we can get



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tenineteen
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:08 am
#2

I'd say, of the two, move Droid Interfaces to DE. It makes sense that the DE would have the knowledge how to interface his creations with the otherwise brainless ship.



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Egna_Dragonn
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:16 am
#3

Any chance that someone who's been following the issue can provide a breakdown of the argument on why these moves need to be made from a shipwright perspective? I honestly can't see why the current implementation isn't the most logical.


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Jenden
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:17 am
#4

I think its fine how it is... If you move flight computers over to SW you might as well take the DE's out of the equation, and DE's really shouldn't be making the ship components...



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TheRealTK421
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:24 am
#5






Capt wrote:

Droid Interfaces/Flight Computers:

* I would like to see Flight Computers moved to Shipwright. No
* OR
* I would like to see Droid Interfaces moved to Droid Engineer. No




Even if there's monkeying to be done with Shipwright...this isn't it.


There's bigger fish to fry before anything like this becomes either needed or worthwhile. I just see this kind of change as a WOMBAT (Waste Of Money, Brains And Time).



/bow

Respectfully,






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IreuONeil
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:35 am
#6

As a Shipwright/Droid Engineer i completely agree with doughbacca.


Shipwrights who want FCs moved to shipwright simply want total control of their profession... the majority of us, if anything is done would like to see droid interfaces sent to DE. but at this point, time shouldnt be wasted on these issues.






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JavelinCatcher
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:36 am
#7

I saw this a couple days ago, but declined to comment.


I thought about bringing this up during beta, but thought better of it. I don't see it as a point of confusion right now, and if it is changed, it will be even moreso. Besides, it's not like it would become a huge credit maker for us because of the people I know using droids/FC's in their ships, they are using looted interfaces anyway.



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cl0kwerq
Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:08 am
#8

Maybe require a DE only component in the droid interfaces...like maybe a droid storage compartment?



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TheRealTK421
Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:12 am
#9






cl0kwerq wrote:


Maybe require a DE only component in the droid interfaces...like maybe a droid storage compartment?




Maybe we could just leave it all alone and try to have the Devs work on more important issues??!?


Believe me, folks. If we have the Devs spend time on this, it could be some kind of bug-fix lost for us (or for Shipwrights).


It's good to look at this but we need to be very very mindful of what we try to hold up as a change that "needs" to be made. We might well shoot ourselves in the foot by calling for a change that won't really have a positive impact either on us or on Shipwrights.


I don't know why they want to take Flight Computers away from us anyway (and I'll do my part to ensure that this doesn't happen).



/bow

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Capt
Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:18 am
#10



TheRealTK421 wrote:
I don't know why they want to take Flight Computers away from us anyway (and I'll do my part to ensure that this doesn't happen).


to get rid of interdependancies, I guess...
and unjustly so.



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Straker_Atrella
Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:17 am
#11

Leave things as is, that's my opinion. SW's who wan't flight computers are just being greedy anyway.



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psikobunny
Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:03 pm
#12






Capt wrote:





TheRealTK421 wrote:
I don't know why they want to take Flight Computers away from us anyway (and I'll do my part to ensure that this doesn't happen).




to get rid of interdependancies, I guess...
and unjustly so.





The way it is now, isn't a true interdependency, which would be a non profession made component required in the production process. FCs are not required at any stage, they are the choice of the end user. The fact that Shipwrights got away with zero interdependencies is annoying enough, and to think they want more, just makes me mad. The addition of a whole new crafting profession was the perfect chance to make further use of the Master artisan parts, as well as parts from other professions (e.g. WSwarheads for rockets, DE droid brains in Interfaces, etc) but instead they gut cut whole cloth and made almost totally outside the existing framework. *sigh* sorry its an old rant of mine, but I'm a big fan of Interdependency when it's consistent and across the board, not unfair and slapdash.



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Dessimus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:11 pm
#13

ok I am a shipwright so let me tell you what I think of this from that perspective. First and foremost, I am totally opposed to moving flight computers to SW. A flight computer is essentially and astromech droid, minus the chassis. It's like a droid brain, and we shipwrights should NOT be able to make those. As far as moving droid interfaces to DE, I could go both ways. Right now most shipwrights are arguing that interfaces should stay a SW component because droid engineers know how to make the droids but shipwrights know ships and know how to make the droids comunicate with ships. I kind of agree with that view point. However I really wouldn't mind it if interfaces were moved to DE since SW basically has no interaction with other professions right now. From an ease of crafting standpoint thats a good thing, but I think it is fun to be able to interact with other people in order to complete your project. just my 2 bits.



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