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Thread: Pub 7 no mention of fixing the 'everlasting seeker droid ' bug?

Shian_Tavkin
Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:41 pm
#1

Title says it all really


Is this being fixed? For myself I dont care, I'd rather be cooked and eaten rather than make the darned things, but I do know it is a form of sustenance to DE's crawling slowly up the profession....and so I post this.


Can our TK answer this question, has he spoken to the Bothan Gnorts?


What news TK?







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Hopefulcrafter
Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:31 pm
#2

They maybe including this as one of the many fixes for us. But from what I've seen in that list quite a few things they mention before are missing. Either they're still working on things or somethings may still be in limbo and not included with this Pub.






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Shian_Tavkin
Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:44 pm
#3

Well all I can say is: It's getting bloody late to be working on things like that.


Things that have been in our bug list almost forever.


I need Summer, this SAD thing is getting to me lol







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Redskuller
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:11 am
#4

Perversly speaking, I hope they stealth fix this one. Poor BH doing a mission and then his last charge gets used after using the same seeker on its 15th mission! that'd be justice...kinda poetic, but not quite.



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GnomeAd
Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:40 am
#5

What I'd really like to know is when SOE is going to start banning BHs for exploiting this. There have been several of them bragging about doingit on this forum alone.
duncje
Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:00 am
#6






GnomeAd wrote:
What I'd really like to know is when SOE is going to start banning BHs for exploiting this. There have been several of them bragging about doingit on this forum alone.





Gnome, they won't ban anybody for this. Besides the fact that there's really no way around the exploit (the charges don't reduce no matter what the BH does), somebody said that it was actually intentional on the Devs' part because the seekers are so borked.


Either way, it's like the speeder fix bug. It's so easy to do, and can be done without thinking about it, that they really can't ban anybody for it because they can't tell who's doing it intentionally and who's doing it by accident.





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911gt198
Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:21 am
#7

investigation 1 - no droids needed


investigation 2 and 3 - LOTS AND LOTS of droids needed


investigation 4 - only need the probe droid and 1 seeker...this makes sence. The BH gets smart enought to use his droid and not lose it. Thus he can use it again and again. I think this is great for the BH and shout NOT be fixed.
TheRealTK421
Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:28 am
#8






Shian_Tavkin wrote:


Is this being fixed? What news TK?




I know that this is on the list to be fixed. I do not know of the status on this one...only that it IS supposed to be fixed in P7.


/bow

Respectfully,






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GnomeAd
Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:41 am
#9

So help me out here...if this is a bug (which is implied because it's on the list of things to be fixed) how is using it not an exploit? How could a BH NOT notice that he's only bought 1 crate of seekers and it lasted him all the way through Inv 2 and 3? It's not like some of the bugs we've seen where it's kinda vague..this is easy to see. I bought 25 seekers and I used 500. How can that be a accident?


It's a bug...BHs know it's a bug. Using it is an exploit and should be a bannable offense.


GnomeAd
Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:46 am
#10

Here's a good thread. http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=101296

Looks like Taurin was notified of this exploit almost 4 months ago. Gee, if this is how SOE "Get's right on it" no wonder we're in the shape we're in. Sad....really sad.
FinMaxa
Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:56 am
#11






GnomeAd wrote:
What I'd really like to know is when SOE is going to start banning BHs for exploiting this. There have been several of them bragging about doingit on this forum alone.





Bottom line is they need to fix it period
.....but as for the banning of BH;s who use it.....its the only way we can use a skill we are SUPPOSED to have (droid track)...we are SUPPOSED to be able to have the seeker update multiple times (appx 10-14) then it is used and a charge depleted. The only way to use this skill is to use the find and track option from the seeker...which at present...does not cause a charge to be depleted....

I say ban (fire) the programmer who hasnt fixed this crap yet....if you want to ban somebody.




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Kollos
Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:26 am
#12

I don't think that any Bounty Hunters should be banned for using it - it is far too easy to use it accidentally - but it damn well needs to be fixed.


And to all the Bounty Hunters who try to rationalize it, just don't. It's a bug. It has been confirmed asa bug on both of our respective forums. Using a bug to gain an advantage is an exploit. Therefore using this bug is exploiting. Delete the Seeker manually after you complete the mission... duh, it's not that hard to figure out how toavoid exploitingthis particular bug once you are aware of it.




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duncje
Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:30 am
#13






GnomeAd wrote:

So help me out here...if this is a bug (which is implied because it's on the list of things to be fixed) how is using it not an exploit? How could a BH NOT notice that he's only bought 1 crate of seekers and it lasted him all the way through Inv 2 and 3? It's not like some of the bugs we've seen where it's kinda vague..this is easy to see. I bought 25 seekers and I used 500. How can that be a accident?


It's a bug...BHs know it's a bug. Using it is an exploit and should be a bannable offense.







What if asomebody bought a 10 charge seeker, lost count and used it 11 times? You want to ban a guy for that? Bottom line is yes, it's a bug. But calling it an exploit is a little over the top, especially when it is harder to "play nice" (having to keep track of every charge used and manually deleting the seeker) than it is to play normally, and not have the seekers used up.


Your anger is directed at the wrong people here. The BH's didn't cause this problem. In fact most BH's would probably side with DE's as we are needed for them to do their job. Don't alienate one of our few repeat customers.




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